1. - Just give us another
five minutes.
- All right, come on, guys...
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2. I would like to introduce my
client to you, Gennifer Flowers.
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3. Yes, I was Bill Clinton's lover
for 12 years.
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4. I would have liked to think that
after a 12-year relationship...
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the guts to say...
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6. "Yes.
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with this woman,
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9. And that's the truth.
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10. Good to see you again,
Mrs. Clinton.
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11. They're waiting for you
in the meeting room.
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12. - How was your flight?
- Fine, thanks.
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13. Hey.
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14. Maybe-maybe Carville can do it?
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15. If we do that,
they'll question him.
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16. - Um, Hillary, um... sorry
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17. to make you fly up
on such short notice.
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18. No, I-I never mind being here,
George.
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20. We need to respond
to the Gennifer Flowers story.
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21. What? It was cash for trash.
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22. - It's a major problem.
- No, it isn't.
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23. Gennifer has been in our lives
for quite a while.
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24. Why are we worried about this?
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is running with it.
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26. - The Post, The Times...
Then call
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in Little Rock
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what he has on Gennifer.
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30. We need to destroy
her credibility.
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31. It's too late for that.
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32. We have to address it head-on.
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33. - So... what,
so Bill makes a statement?
No.
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38. - No. No, that...
- We need you and Bill
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40. No, I do not think
that's a good idea.
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a special taping.
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42. It'll air right after the Super
Bowl— that way every person
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43. in the country will be able
to see it with their own eyes.
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44. See what, exactly?
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45. Uh, uh... you know.
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they can, too.
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51. No, I'm-I'm not doing that.
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we even started this campaign.
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about Bill's past.
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like this comes up,
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with a response.
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59. We all agreed.
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60. He dropped four points
overnight.
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double that.
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62. If he doesn't do better than
third in New Hampshire,
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65. Well, clearly, you all talked
this through before I arrived.
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66. You really think
this is a good idea?
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67. We are not using
the word "affair."
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68. No, he-he'll say
"problems in your marriage."
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72. Uh, have a couple
talking points for you.
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73. Uh, feel free to revise them
any way you want.
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74. Who is Gennifer Flowers?
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75. Do you know her?
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your relationship?
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77. Very limited.
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80. She was, uh, one of a number
of young people that were
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81. working at the television
stations around Little Rock.
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82. Was she a friend?
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Does your wife know her?
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84. - Yeah, sure-sure I do.
- She was an acquaintance.
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85. I-I would say
a friendly acquaintance.
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86. She's alleging that she had
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88. It... That allegation
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90. You know, it-it was only
when money came out,
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offering people money
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involved with me,
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94. But in the past, you've said
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had problems.
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96. - Does that mean
you were separated?
- No.
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97. Does it mean
you contemplated divorce?
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99. With all due respect,
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there's a-a-a single person
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who'd feel comfortable detailing
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102. every single thing that's
ever gone on in their marriage.
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103. This is personal to us.
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104. It has nothing
to do with our country.
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these questions
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Mrs. Clinton.
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that most Americans
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that you've stayed together.
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to have reached some sort
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and an arrangement.
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111. Wait a minute,
wait a minute, wait a minute.
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112. You're looking at two people
who love each other.
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standing by my man,
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through together and...
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not enough for people,
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125. It's a meet and greet,
20 minutes,
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126. - then we head to the rally.
- Okay.
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127. Are the numbers in yet?
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128. Bill stabilized overnight.
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129. The Washington Post is running
an op-ed in support of him.
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130. The interview was
a huge success.
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131. Is that it?
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132. - I don't know how to...
- Just say it.
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133. Viewers loved Bill,
but the response
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135. Don't sugarcoat it.
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136. You're being called
"calculating."
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137. "Unfeeling, abrasive."
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138. And the "stand by your man"
comment
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in the heartland.
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140. Tammy Wynette wants
a personal apology.
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141. Is there anything else?
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142. Gennifer Flowers just released
a recording
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143. of a phone call
she had with Bill.
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144. I'm so sorry.
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145. Are you okay?
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146. You know what the problem is
with most politicians today?
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148. Hi. I'll be right down.
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149. Monica, you don't know who I a.
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150. - Wrong number.
- No, wait!
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151. I work in the White House.
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152. - Who is this?
- You have to watch yourself.
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153. It's not just him—
it's her, too.
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154. They're coming for you.
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155. They're trying to destroy you.
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156. Do you have
your driver's license?
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157. - Are you okay?
- I'm fine.
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158. I just really don't want
to leave you
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to the courthouse and testify.
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160. Mr. Martin has been preparing me
for the grand jury.
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161. I can handle myself, I can.
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162. Monica, it'll do you good
to go to California.
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163. I just keep thinking about you
sitting up there all alone.
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166. - I love you.
- I love you, too.
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167. Mm.
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170. - Hey, Bill.
- Hi, sweetheart.
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172. Mrs. Clinton, good morning.
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173. Good morning, Matt.
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are talking about
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between your husband
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ever described
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- Oh, of course he has.
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179. We-we've talked about it
at great length.
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180. And I know the press is saying
all kinds of things.
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remember that the president
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allegations unequivocally.
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did seem to have
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- Matt, uh... I have known
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like a stranger.
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and just trust him.
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191. - You believe that he's
told you the whole story?
- I know he has.
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192. I really have to say, there is
a-a larger problem here
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194. And it concerns me.
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195. Ken Starr's investigation
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198. And now... what is it about?
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199. He has spent four years
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everything possible
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201. to accuse my husband of a crime.
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202. And it isn't just Ken Starr,
it's a whole operation.
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203. Look at the very people
involved in this.
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204. They have popped up
in other things.
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205. This is the great story here
for anyone willing to write it.
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my husband
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he was running for president.
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209. Did you watch?
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210. Of course I watched.
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211. I think Starr thought he was
just messing with me on this.
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214. You were incredible.
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215. Well, that'll teach him
to fuck with us.
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216. What's going on
with my immunity?
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217. Well, Starr's being
a stubborn cocksucker.
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218. So they're gonna arrest me?
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219. No, no, no, you're fine.
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220. Now, listen,
when you get out of the car,
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your father a nice hug.
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222. You know, for the camera.
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mother Marcia Lewis
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for a day of testimony.
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they ask you in there?
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going to jail?
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by figuring out what,
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Marcia!
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to Monica?
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to me.
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to use mind control?
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240. You don't know what the hell
you're talking about.
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241. Monica needs protection.
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243. They came to terms!
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245. - They bitched out!
- This has to end.
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246. - It will.
- When?
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247. How the hell should I know?
Ask Starr!
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248. Monica Lewinsky is
the only person who has
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encounter with the president.
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250. She is the linchpin
of Mr. Starr's prosecution.
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252. Shut the fuck up.
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253. The president lied
to the American people
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255. His poll numbers are up.
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256. Where are we at getting him
to testify?
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257. Well, we've drafted a subpoena,
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258. but it's useless unless we have
a deal with Monica.
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259. I mean, she's denied it
and he can, too.
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260. We need to get her side
of the story.
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261. It's that malpractice lawyer—
he's getting in our way.
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262. We should just do a deal.
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263. No, I can't,
not with that lunatic Ginsburg.
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264. The man is outside
the universe of discourse.
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265. We've got to keep
putting pressure on Monica.
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266. We've already tried
intimidation.
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267. We-we've subpoenaed her mother,
for Christ's sakes.
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268. Betty Currie,
every single one of her friends.
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269. I mean, what more can we do?
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271. So I've always been
fascinated with big cats.
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about working with a big cat
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to go inside with him.
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275. Look at you.
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276. - You're getting so good.
- Thanks.
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doing day and night at 24.
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that it's not permanent,
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I'll be in a whole new life,
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and my husband and my job
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to hold onto that.
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282. Nothing's forever.
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284. I'll get your dad.
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285. Did you hear something?
Is it good news?
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286. No, it's not.
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287. - All right.
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288. Back up, back up, please.
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289. - Back up.
- Mr. Lewinsky!
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your daughter in jail?
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291. Can they really arrest me?
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292. Not today.
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293. They're just trying
to scare you, that's all.
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294. Monica, we need
a handwriting sample first.
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print your name here
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the numbers one through ten.
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298. Monica, how'd it go in there?
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300. Where are you headed next?
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301. Did they fingerprint you
in there?
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303. You guys go on ahead,
I'll take care of them.
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304. How are you feeling right now?
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305. Excuse me!
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306. Today, ladies and gentlemen,
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by Ken Starr
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of Independent Counsel.
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310. Now, believe me, I understand
that many of you have questions.
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311. I'm going to be indicted,
aren't I, Dad?
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313. I don't know.
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314. But I do know we need
to make a change.
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that I should step aside.
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new counsel.
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318. Now, of course, I am going
to miss the fight, but
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to fight on
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of the Independent Counsel.
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322. Ginsburg is out.
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323. Monica fired him,
hired new lawyers this morning.
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324. You know Cacheris, represented
Fawn Hall during Iran-Contra.
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- Any trouble getting here?
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329. Uh, no, no.
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the disguise worked.
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quick and painless.
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332. That's not really
how these people operate.
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333. - Morning.
- Plato.
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lives here.
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if you will.
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337. No, but he was here earlier.
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338. I'm Sol Wisenberg,
we met at the off...
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340. Our client will agree
to the terms of your deal.
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relationship with Bill Clinton.
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from prosecution for everyone
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we want it signed.
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of a navy blue dress?
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about a dress today.
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it will be delivered to you
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delivered to Monica.
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everything from the beginning.
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at the White House.
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of that year,
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during the government shutdown,
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a relationship.
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exploded this morning outside
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in Kenya and Tanzania
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are calling
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to search the buildings
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and his al-Qaeda network.
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our briefing last year.
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to be just some rich kid
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the Rubicon.
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a list of targets.
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to make chemical weapons.
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to speak, Mr. President?
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380. Sure.
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an immunity deal
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keep you from testifying
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a subpoena right now.
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389. Fuck.
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lay it at my feet.
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of your attorney,
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your Fifth Amendment right.
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gonna look like?
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of the United States
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399. I don't want to be subpoenaed.
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403. Look, one more thing, sir.
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a blood sample from you.
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they'd want to run a DNA test?
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to me as a gift.
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they'd be here soon.
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and the attorney general
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to take this DNA test.
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you were "never alone"
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when there's evidence
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on numerous occasions?
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with her to your private study.
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participate
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bullshit, "certain intimacies"?
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the tough questions.
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says you ejaculated
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on two separate occasions,
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that you masturbated
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in your secretary's office,
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- Fuck respectful.
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if the DNA is a match.
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442. It's a match.
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443. - Oh!
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444. - Yeah!
- Ha!
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445. Hot damn.
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446. Here's what we expect from them.
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447. Starr's team only has four hours
to question you.
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448. We should use long responses
to run out the clock.
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449. Sir...
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450. we need to know
as much as we can
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451. to help prepare you for this.
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452. What was the extent of your
relationship with Ms. Lewinsky?
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453. Look.
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454. Monica and I spent
some time together.
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455. And on a handful of occasions
there was some intimate contact.
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456. But we did not have
sexual relations.
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457. What does that mean, sir?
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458. By some definitions,
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459. the contact between me
and Monica could be classed
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460. as "sexual relations."
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461. But at the Paula Jones
deposition,
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462. her lawyers...
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463. gave me a detailed description
of what they considered
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464. to be sexual relations.
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465. I read it, I thought about it,
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466. and I decided that what happened
between me and Monica
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467. didn't count.
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468. Under their definition...
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469. I told the truth.
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470. Under their definition.
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471. It's clever.
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472. Clearly I've got
my work cut out for me.
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473. Gentlemen. David, I'll see you.
Sir?
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474. Thanks, Bob.
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475. Mr. President...
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476. if that is what you are
gonna say to the jury,
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477. have you prepared
the first lady?
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478. Because as soon as you testify,
the whole world will find out.
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479. I just can't bring myself
to tell her.
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480. It's gonna be horrible.
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481. It's better
that she hear it now.
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482. David...
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483. you've known her a long time.
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484. You think you could...
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485. soften her up
on the idea for me?
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486. - You want me...?
- Please.
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487. I'd appreciate it.
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488. Mr. Kendall is here.
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489. David, how's the prep going?
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490. Oh... good.
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491. Starr's team doesn't know
what they're in for.
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492. Bill is one of this country's
great legal minds.
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493. And completely self-taught.
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494. He spent more time proposing
to me than studying.
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495. Yes.
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496. I just wanted to see
how you were
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497. - feeling about tomorrow.
- Fine.
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498. I just wish he didn't have
to go through it.
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499. So you're not worried at all?
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500. Oh, should I be?
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501. What if there's more
to this thing than you know?
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502. Between Bill and this woman.
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503. Well, it took them seven months
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504. to reach a deal with her.
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505. I'm sure they got her
to flip the same way
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506. they did every other witness.
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507. You dangle a prison sentence
in front of a 24-year-old,
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508. she'll tell you
any story you want.
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509. Now, I don't blame her,
but I would not believe
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510. - a word she said.
- And...
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511. you're sure nothing's happened?
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512. I appreciate you, David.
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513. And I am aware
of my husband's reputation.
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514. Bill has never lied to me
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515. about the things he's done.
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516. He tells me everything.
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517. That's how we survive.
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518. Have you been up all night?
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519. Hillary, I need
to tell you something.
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520. This thing with Monica Lewinsky?
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521. It's more serious
than I made it out to be.
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522. I slipped up.
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523. She came onto me.
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524. I let it happen
a couple of times.
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525. What are you,
what are you saying?
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526. - You...
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527. I messed up.
I-I should've told you...
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528. We never had sex.
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529. You said nothing happened.
You said she stalked you.
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530. I'm so sorry.
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531. So where-where
did you even have...?
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532. In the office.
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533. No-no one saw. Look, it was...
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534. it was meaningless... it was...
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535. You lied to me!
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536. I wa— I was trying
to protect you.
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537. - I wa— I was trying to...
- You liar!
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538. - How could you?
- I'm sorry.
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539. I went out there and I,
I defended you
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540. in front of everybody
the whole time!
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541. You-you knew that so...
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542. Don't you dare touch me!
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543. How could you do this to me?
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544. How could you?
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545. - I didn't want to hurt Chelsea.
- So everyone else—
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546. Ken Starr,
they-they're all right,
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547. and I'm the fucking fool?
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548. No, that's not true.
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549. You looked me in the eyes.
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550. You told me nothing happened.
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551. You said it was all made up.
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552. - You... you fucking promised me!
- I'm sorr...
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553. I can't listen to you.
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554. You have to go. Just get out.
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555. Get out!
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556. And you better tell Chelsea
before she finds out on CNN.
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557. Good morning.
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558. Sir, an asset in Afghanistan
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559. says senior members of al-Qaeda
plan to meet in three days
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560. at a camp called Zawhar Kili.
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561. And Usama bin Laden is
likely to be there.
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562. Definite "likely."
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563. If I may, my top general
in Afghanistan
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564. has seen this intel,
he says it's iffy.
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565. It's a long shot.
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566. CIA CTC disagrees.
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567. There will be a meeting,
bin Laden will attend.
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568. This is our chance,
Mr. President.
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569. Sir, we know this is
a complex time
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570. to call in a strike.
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571. Uh, people might accuse you
of attempting to distract...
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572. Sandy, don't give me
political advice.
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573. You all recommend I strike,
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574. I strike.
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575. I say we put Zawhar Kili
on the list
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576. and let American missiles
do the work.
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577. Unless you want to hold off,
Mr. President.
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578. Mr. President?
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579. Let's get him.
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580. Mr. President,
Starr and his team are here.
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581. Judge Starr,
this grand jury is in session.
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582. Thank you. Can we please
proceed with the oath?
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583. President Clinton, can you
please raise your right hand?
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584. Mr. President, do you swear
to tell the truth,
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585. the whole truth and nothing but
the truth, so help you God?
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586. I do.
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587. Good afternoon, Mr. President.
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588. Good afternoon.
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589. Today your testimony
is being piped through
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590. to a courtroom
where the ladies and gentlemen
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591. of the grand jury are listening.
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592. Do you understand that, sir?
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593. Yes, I do.
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594. On January 17th,
during your deposition
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595. for the Paula Jones case,
you took an oath.
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596. Is that correct?
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597. I did, yes.
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598. Could you please tell
the grand jury
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599. what taking that oath
meant to you?
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600. It meant I had to answer
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601. - the questions truthfully.
- I see.
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602. And do you believe
you answered them truthfully
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603. - during your deposition?
- Yes, sir, I do.
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604. Mr. President...
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605. were you ever physically
intimate with Monica Lewinsky?
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606. I think I can, uh,
save you and the grand jury
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607. a lot of time
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608. if-if I can read a statement
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609. that will make it clear
what the, uh,
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610. nature of my relationship
with Ms. Lewinsky was.
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611. And with your permission,
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612. I'd like to read that statement.
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613. Go ahead, Mr. President.
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614. What is happening?
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615. Starr can't
let him read a statement.
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616. When I was alone
with Ms. Lewinsky
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617. on certain occasions
in early 1996,
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618. and once in early 1997,
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619. I engaged in conduct
that was wrong.
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620. These encounters did not
consist of sexual intercourse.
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621. They did not constitute
sexual relations
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622. as I understood that term
to be defined
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624. But they did involve
inappropriate
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625. intimate contact.
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626. These encounters ended
at my insistence.
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627. I regret that what began
as a friendship
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628. came to include this conduct.
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629. And I take full responsibility
for my actions.
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630. While I will provide
the grand jury
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631. whatever other information
I can,
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632. because of privacy considerations,
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633. affecting my family,
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634. myself and others...
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635. and in an effort
to preserve the dignity
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636. of the office I hold,
this is all I will
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637. say about the specifics
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638. of these particular matters.
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639. He's saying he won't answer
any questions
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640. about specific sex acts.
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641. Every question we planned
on asking is fucking useless.
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642. You, would you like this?
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643. During your deposition,
Mr. President,
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644. do you remember that you were
asked about Ms. Lewinsky?
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645. Yes, sir, I do.
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646. And do you remember the term
"sexual relations"
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647. - from your deposition?
- I do.
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648. Did you understand
the definition of that term?
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649. - I did.
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650. If you understood the term,
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651. then why did you deny
having sexual relations
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652. with Monica Lewinsky?
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653. Well, why don't I tell you
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654. my understanding of the, uh,
definition I was given.
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655. As far as I'm concerned,
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656. "sexual relations"
covers contact
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657. between certain areas
of the body
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658. with "an intent
to arouse or gratify."
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659. It excludes any other activity.
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660. So you're saying
it only applies to you yourself
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661. touching certain parts
of Ms. Lewinsky's body
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662. with intent to arouse her?
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663. Exactly.
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664. See, when I read it, I thought
it was a strange definition,
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665. but that was the one
that the Paula Jones
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666. legal team decided on.
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667. During your deposition,
your lawyer said
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668. there was no sex of any kind
in any manner
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669. between you and Ms. Lewinsky.
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670. Isn't that false?
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671. - No.
- Did Monica lie in her affidavit
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672. by denying the two of you had
a relationship?
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673. Not necessarily.
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674. See, I-I don't know
what Monica was thinking
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675. when she filled out
her affidavit,
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676. but it's quite possible
that what she said wasn't a lie,
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677. depending on how she interpreted
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678. that definition
of "sexual relations."
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679. Mr. President,
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680. even if you didn't have "sexual
relations" by that definition,
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681. you still engaged in...
other sexual activities.
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682. So the statement
"There was no sex of any kind
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683. in any manner" is a lie.
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684. Is it not?
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685. Well, that depends
upon what the meaning
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686. of the word "is" is.
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687. For fuck's sake, he's running
circles around them.
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688. If "is" means
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689. "is and never has been,"
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690. that is one thing,
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691. but if it means "there is none
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692. at the present moment,"
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693. then that was a completely
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694. true statement.
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695. Did you talk
with Ms. Lewinsky about what
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696. she meant to write
in her affidavit?
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697. No, sir, I did not.
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698. Your lawyer was trying
to mislead the judge during
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699. your deposition, was he not?
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700. You'll have to ask him.
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701. I was focusing
on my own testimony.
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702. In that testimony, when asked
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703. if you'd ever been alone
with Ms. Lewinsky,
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704. you seemed to struggle
with your memory.
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705. Were you trying
to mislead the judge?
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706. No, look...
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707. I did my best, sir,
at this time.
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708. I did not know
what I now know about this.
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709. A lot of other things
were going on in my life.
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710. Did I want this come out? No.
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711. Was I embarrassed about it? Yes.
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712. Did I ask her to lie about it?
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713. No.
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714. I say to the grand jury,
put yourself in my position.
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715. I am doing my best to cooperat.
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716. And protect myself,
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717. my family and my office.
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718. I am trying to tell the truth
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719. about what happened
between Ms. Lewinsky and me.
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720. But this does not
change the fact
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721. that the real reason
that the Jones lawyers
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722. zeroed in on me
in the first place
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723. was because this was
a bogus lawsuit
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724. funded by my political enemies.
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725. Uh...
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726. just a moment, Mr. President.
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727. This is going nowhere.
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728. He's talking to the jurors.
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729. I say we just move on
to their questions.
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730. No, I have some questions.
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731. Mr. President,
in your statement earlier,
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732. you said that you engaged
in "intimate contact"
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733. with Ms. Lewinsky.
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734. What exactly do you mean
by that?
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735. I did things
that were inappropriate,
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736. but they did not include
any activity
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737. that was within the definition
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738. of "sexual relations"
I was given.
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739. Directly touching
the listed body parts
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740. with "an intent
to arouse or gratify."
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741. Is kissing
within that definition?
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742. As I understood it, no.
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743. Is touching a person's breast
within that definition?
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744. If it was direct
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745. and not through clothing,
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746. then, yes, I think
that could constitute contact.
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747. Is having oral sex
performed on you
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748. within that definition?
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749. - No.
- Why not?
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750. Because there was no intent
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751. on my end to arouse.
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752. Did Monica Lewinsky
perform oral sex on you?
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753. And I believe the people
of the grand jury deserve
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754. a direct answer to this—
did she, yes
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755. or no?
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756. I am not going
to answer that question.
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757. I'm going to refer
to my initial statement.
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758. We're fucked.
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759. We're at time.
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760. I-I'd like
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761. a few more moments
with the witness, please,
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762. - if I may?
- The president has
important matters to attend to.
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763. - It'll only take a minute...
- We've agreed on four hours.
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764. It's been four hours.
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765. Have a good one, Ken.
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766. If he's gonna confess
to the entire nation,
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767. he has to say sorry.
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768. No way, no apology.
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769. It'll make him look sincere.
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770. It'll make him look weak.
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771. He needs to take
responsibility, Sid.
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772. Have you forgotten Iran-Contra?
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773. Ronald Reagan apologized!
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774. Reagan said,
"Mistakes were made."
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775. He didn't say he made them.
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776. Okay, so what if we don't use
the word "sorry"?
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777. What about...
"I have fallen short
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778. of what you should expect
from a president"?
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779. How about if we just say, uh,
Ken Starr's investigation
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780. is a bunch of horseshit?
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781. I don't think
that's a good idea, sir.
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782. What do you think, Hillary?
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783. It's your speech.
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784. Say whatever you want.
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785. You are the president.
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786. I guess.
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787. Good evening.
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788. This afternoon I testified
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789. before the Office
of Independent Counsel
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790. and the grand jury.
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791. I answered
their questions truthfully.
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792. Including questions
about my private life.
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794. would ever want to answer.
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795. Still...
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796. I must take
complete responsibility
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797. for all my actions, both public
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798. and private.
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799. Indeed...
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800. I did have a relationship
with Ms. Lewinsky
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801. that was not appropriate.
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802. In fact, it was wrong.
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803. But I told the grand jury today
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805. that at no time did I ask anyoe
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806. to take any unlawful action.
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807. I know that my public comments
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808. and my silence about this mattr
gave a false impression.
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809. I misled people.
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810. Including even my wife.
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811. I deeply regret that.
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812. Now this matter is between
the two people I love most.
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813. My wife and our daughter.
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814. And our God.
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815. I must put it right.
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816. And I am prepared
to do whatever it takes
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817. to do so.
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818. Nothing is more important
to me personally.
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819. But it is private.
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820. It's nobody's business
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821. but ours.
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822. Even presidents
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823. have private lives.
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824. Come on, boy.
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825. Oh.
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826. It's nice to be here.
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827. I need some fresh air.
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828. I'm gonna take a walk
around the island.
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829. That's not advisable,
Mrs. Clinton.
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830. Why not?
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831. It's not safe.
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832. We surveyed the island—
press is everywhere.
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833. We could assemble a team
to accompany you,
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834. but we recommend
you stay on the property.
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835. Can you make sure that
the president's belongings
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836. are put in the guesthouse?
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837. Mr. President,
the Tomahawks are spinning
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838. in their launch tubes,
ready to fly.
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839. Let's hit this chemical plant
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840. he owns in Sudan.
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841. Yes, sir, and Zawhar Kili,
the camp?
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842. You believe bin Laden is there?
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843. CIA has the highest confidence.
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844. Okay.
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845. Then do it.
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846. Hill, you almost ready?
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847. You know, we don't have
to go tonight.
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848. Vernon and Ann will understand.
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849. I honor my commitments, Bill.
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850. Ah, the birthday boy.
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851. Hey, buddy.
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852. Hey! Hey, how old are you now?
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853. - 21?
- I'm an old dog, Vernon.
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854. - 52.
- Oh!
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855. - Ann.
- Ooh.
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856. It's been too long.
Thanks for having us.
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857. Well, it wouldn't be a summer
on the Vineyard
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858. without our birthday celebration
for Bill.
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859. - Yeah.
- It's so good
to see you two together.
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860. Who wants a drink?
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861. I have a California red
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862. - you'll go crazy for, Hillary.
- Mm.
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863. It's delicious.
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864. Ah.
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865. Are you okay, Hillary?
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866. I'm fine.
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867. You and Bill must be just...
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868. You know, ev-everything's fine.
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869. Really, uh...
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870. we're okay.
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871. Good.
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872. The fall is-is
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873. going to be busy— we are headed
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874. to Northern Ireland
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875. to help
with the peace negotiations.
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876. W-Wait, that is beautiful.
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877. That wasn't here last time.
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878. It's been hell.
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879. I can't even imagine.
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880. She won't speak to me.
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881. Barely even look at me.
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882. I don't think
she's ever gonna forgive me.
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883. No one on the Hill
will take my calls.
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884. You know, I tried
Feinstein, Lieberman.
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885. Couldn't even get
that progressive nut
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886. Kucinich to pick up the phone.
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887. They're mad at you for lying.
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888. I'm worried.
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889. It's a tantrum— it'll pass.
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890. Yeah, but it's up to them
if this goes to impeachment.
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891. Don't even entertain
the thought.
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892. They will fall in line.
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893. I'm a fool.
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894. I know that.
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895. And I'm so sorry
I got you mixed up in it.
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896. It's all right,
these things happen.
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897. You think you could help me
with Hillary?
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898. No, no, a good word from you
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899. will go a long way.
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900. Bill, you and I both know
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901. I am not the best person
for that job.
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902. - This corn is delicious.
Mm.
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903. They grow it right here
on the property.
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904. When does, uh,
Chelsea head back to school?
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905. September.
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906. Is she having fun at Stanford?
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907. You know Chelsea—
she's such a diligent student.
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908. Fun is not a priority.
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909. Oh, she gets that
from her mother.
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910. No...
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911. what I meant was, uh...
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912. you know, Hillary's
such a high achiever.
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913. You know,
she knows what she wants.
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914. Not afraid to go after it.
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915. That's certainly true.
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916. You know, after we won in, uh,
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917. in '92, Hillary and I did a...
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918. like a kind of victory lap
from state to state.
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919. You know, and we were driving
through her hometown
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920. in Park Ridge,
and the limo runs out of gas.
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921. So, you know, we pull
into this little station,
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922. and, uh, this guy notices Hill.
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923. And he says,
"Hey, Hillary, remember me?
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924. We used to date."
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925. And, uh, as we pull away,
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926. you know,
I turn to her all proud,
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927. and I said,
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928. "I bet you're glad
you married the president
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929. and not that guy."
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930. And you know what she said?
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931. Tell him, honey.
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932. If I had married that guy,
he would be president.
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933. You remember that trip?
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934. I remember.
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935. Ha-ha! Hear, hear!
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936. Hillary, please.
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937. Just leave me alone.
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938. Hillary, come on.
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939. No, just, just get away from me.
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940. Just-just fucking talk to me.
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941. You want me to talk to you?
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942. Really, you want to know
how I'm feeling?
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943. You selfish
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944. piece of shit,
how do you think I'm feeling?
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945. I am devastated!
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946. I am mortified!
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947. I am appalled!
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948. That's how I'm feeling.
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949. It was a meaningless
distraction.
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950. You know, I-I tried to end it.
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951. But she wouldn't leave me alone.
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952. Oh, you-you let an obsessive,
crazy person into your life,
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953. and then she wouldn't
leave you alone.
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954. Imagine that.
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955. Look, I'm begging you,
please forgive me.
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956. It was a reckless,
stupid mistake.
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957. You know, I-I'm a weak person.
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958. - It goes back a long way...
- Please, please?
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959. If I hear that story one more
time, I-I-I'm gonna be sick.
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960. Poor little Bill and...
the-the stern grandmother
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961. and the alcoholic stepfather
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962. and your tragic fucking life!
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963. You know what you are,
Bill, you are...
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964. chaos.
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965. You are mayhem.
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966. It's like everywhere you go,
everything you do,
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967. it just disorients people long
enough for you to have your way.
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968. You know, for the longest time,
I was stupid enough
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969. to think that I could
control this chaos
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970. 'cause we were a team.
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971. It was you and me
against the world.
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972. We had causes we believed in.
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973. We had a mission,
we had a purpose.
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974. And there was nothing
we couldn't do.
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975. We weren't like anybody else.
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976. Because we were
gonna do it together.
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977. And I was...
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978. I was wrong! I was so wrong!
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979. You lit our life
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980. on fire.
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981. You exposed us to...
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982. this narcissistic loony tune,
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983. to this psychopath
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984. Linda Tripp,
you exposed us to Ken Starr.
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985. Everything that we've worked for!
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986. For what? For sex?
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987. No, it wa— it wasn't...
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988. - We-we didn't even...
- No, please, please.
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989. Just because you didn't
always finish,
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990. doesn't mean
that you didn't start.
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991. This-this is
an arrangement, Bill.
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992. That is all this is—
do you understand that?
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993. - No, it's not true.
- No, look, Bill, I threw
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994. my body in front of yours
to protect you.
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995. I humiliated myself
for your benefit.
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996. Only to find out
that you have done
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997. - whatever the fuck you wanted.
- Look...
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998. I'll do anything
to make this up to you.
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999. Whatever you want—
just please don't leave me.
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1000. You're the only woman
I've ever loved— I need you.
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1001. Don't leave me.
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1002. But do you really think
I can leave you?
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1003. Are you really that naive?
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1004. I can't leave you.
I don't have a choice.
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1005. If I leave, I'm the woman
who left President Clinton.
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1006. If I stay,
I'm the woman who stayed.
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1007. I lose either way.
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1008. 'Cause I-I didn't invest in me.
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1009. I invested in us.
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1010. And now you've made—
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1011. you've made me look stupid,
and I... I hate you for that!
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1012. Sir?
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1013. I was told to relay a message.
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1014. Operation complete.
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1015. There will be
more intel tomorrow
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1016. about the success
of the endeavor.
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1017. Thank you.
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1018. Come here, come on.
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1019. Come here.
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1020. Come on.
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1021. Come on, come here.
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1022. Sandy Berger's waiting outside,
Mr. President.
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1023. Your bags have been loaded
into the car.
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1024. - What have you heard?
- They've been to the camp.
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1025. - They've checked all the bodies.
- And?
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1026. No bin Laden.
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