1. Today, in Trial O.J...
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2. lawyers argued over whether
the former Heisman winner
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3. is an arthritic cripple
incapable of murder.
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4. He has bad knees, arthritis
and limited mobility.
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5. He may look like Tarzan,
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6. but he moves like Tarzan's grandfather.
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7. After that, the jury got a peek
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8. at an exercise video Simpson taped
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9. just two weeks before the murders.
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10. Aw, break it all the way down!
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11. - Feel it in the knees!
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12. Yeah. Love that intensity!
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13. - And if you're working out with your wife...
- Hello.
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14. McKENNA Is
this Laura Hart McKinny?
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15. Yes. How may I help you?
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16. The Laura Hart McKinny who
used to live in Los Angeles,
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17. who has tapes of LAPD
Officer Mark Fuhrman?
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18. How did you find me?
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19. I'm an investigator
working for O.J. Simpson.
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20. We believe our client is innocent
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21. and your tapes could really help him.
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22. Well, I don't want to help him.
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23. Look, I was just writing a screenplay
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24. about the LAPD.
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25. I met Mark,
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26. and I interviewed him for research.
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27. So there are tapes.
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28. What does he say?
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29. How inflammatory is it?
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30. I never asked to be a part of this.
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31. So, on the night of the
murders, you were in an alleyway
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32. behind Bundy Drive and
you heard a commotion
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33. near Nicole Brown Simpson's condominium?
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34. Yes.
I-I heard two men arguing.
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35. The first man said,
"Hey, hey, hey!"
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36. and the second man yelled at him.
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37. Uh, he was hard to understand.
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38. And did the second voice
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39. sound as if it was older,
more mature than the first?
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40. Calls for speculation, Your Honor.
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41. Sustained. Foundational.
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42. All right, then.
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43. The second voice
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44. that you heard, it sounded like
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45. the voice of a black
man, is that correct?
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46. - Object to, Your Honor! I object!
- Sustained.
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47. This is ridiculous!
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48. Sustained. Mr. Darden, where
are you going with this?
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49. Your Honor,
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50. I was asking in good faith.
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51. We know that the witness told a friend
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52. that he heard the angry
yell of an older man
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53. who sounded black.
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54. I resent that statement, Your Honor!
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55. You cannot tell by somebody's
voice whether they are black.
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56. That is a racist statement
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57. and entirely inappropriate.
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58. Your Honor, yeah, I am
offended that in America,
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59. in 1995, that we have to endure
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60. this kind of thinking.
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61. All right, I didn't make the statement.
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62. The witness did.
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63. Oh, please, Mr. Darden!
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64. I... if this is the witness' statement,
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65. then he is the racist, not me.
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66. But that is what you're suggesting.
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67. Hey, hey,
hey! I suggest nothing!
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68. - Oh, yes, you did!
- I did not.
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69. - Yes, you did.
- Don't put words in my mouth!
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70. And that has created a lot of problems
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71. for myself and for my family.
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72. You continually make statements
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73. about me and race, Mr. Cochran...
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74. Wait. Wait, all right,
stop it, both of you!
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75. This is all improper. And
I'm so mad at both of you guys
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76. right now, I'm about to hold
the two of you in contempt.
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77. Let's take a recess so you can cool off.
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78. We will resume in 15.
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79. What was that?
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80. He is so cynical.
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81. I mean, of course there's such
a thing as a "black voice."
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82. - There are accents, speech patterns...
- I know that.
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83. But look what happened.
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84. His witness was failing,
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85. so Johnnie threw a racial stink bomb
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86. to deflect attention.
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87. That guy saw a Bronco near Bundy.
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88. He heard two men arguing
outside the condo.
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89. But now the jury has
completely forgotten that.
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90. Is it true?
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91. Yeah. Tapes exist.
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92. I think they're really ugly.
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93. They have phrases like, uh...
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94. Stuff like... "Get
niggers."Frame niggers."
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95. "Plant evidence."
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96. Jesus Christ.
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97. - Can we confirm the authenticity?
- McKENNA: I've asked around.
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98. Her lawyers have shopped
the tapes to London papers,
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99. TV tabloids... they've heard snippets.
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100. Supposedly there's an offer on the table
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101. for 250 grand.
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102. Hmm. Why doesn't she sell?
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103. Well,
that's the strange part.
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104. She doesn't actually
care about the money.
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105. She'd rather sell her screenplay.
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106. She's a screenwriter.
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107. Or, well, a wannabe screenwriter.
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108. She was living in L.A.
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109. She couldn't make a living,
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110. so she moved to North Carolina
to teach screenwriting.
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111. I don't understand.
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112. How can you teach screenwriting
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113. if you can't sell a script?
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114. Oh, Barry, Barry...
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115. Gentlemen, you are missing the point.
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116. I don't care who she
is or what she does.
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117. What matters are these tapes.
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118. We must get them.
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119. "Get niggers"?
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120. "Frame niggers"? That
takes my breath away.
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121. These tapes will allow
Mr. Simpson to walk free.
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122. Well, let's not get... too cocky.
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123. I mean, we haven't heard them.
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124. Look, lucky breaks don't
just fall from the sky.
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125. Oh, yes, they do, Mr. Scheck.
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126. God brought us these tapes.
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127. There is something much
larger at play here.
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128. This is manna from heaven.
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129. What is the defense doing?
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130. They got Ito to sign
a subpoena for what?
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131. 13 hours of tape in North Carolina.
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132. I don't follow.
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133. Who is this woman?
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134. It just makes no sense
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135. why Fuhrman would blab to
an unemployed screenwriter.
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136. Why would Fuhrman do anything?
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137. I'm not gonna pretend
like I'm surprised.
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138. Whatever's on these tapes scares me.
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139. Well, maybe it's meritless.
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140. Fiction. Just Fuhrman and
this writer playacting.
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141. The defense has been obsessed
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142. with creating stories for the jury,
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143. and lawyers resort to stories
to distract from the facts...
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144. You know, Marcia, people like stories.
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145. It helps them make sense of things.
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146. Shit.
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147. Now who can deny there isn't a
higher power watching over us?
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148. I spent my life fighting for a cause
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149. and then, in the
biggest case of all time,
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150. with the whole world watching,
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151. a magical piece of paper appears.
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152. Well, we still need to get a judge
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153. in North Carolina
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154. to enforce the subpoena.
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155. A small technicality.
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156. I will venture forth
to secure our bounty.
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157. Well, obviously,
I will accompany you.
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158. I mean, I discovered
Fuhrman, for God's sake.
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159. I mean, I invented him.
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160. Hang on, Bob. I won
every Fuhrman motion.
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161. Gentlemen, we still
have a case here in L.A.
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162. I don't understand.
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163. Why do more than two people
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164. have to get on the plane?
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165. Then it should be me.
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166. I have a winning record
in that jurisdiction.
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167. I tried over 200 cases there.
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168. 200?
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169. Really? When?
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170. Seems like yesterday.
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171. But understand this:
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172. things change really slowly down South.
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173. And I know the Carolinas
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174. like I know the caramel
color in a single-barrel
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176. sipped over the blush
of the morning sunrise.
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177. Oh, come on. Really?
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178. I hired all of you.
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179. You know, whatever.
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180. I don't grovel.
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181. Just make sure you put
my name on the brief.
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182. Thank you, Bob.
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183. This is it.
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184. All right, let's go.
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185. Here are the transcripts.
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186. The judge will see
you gentlemen shortly.
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187. - Thank you.
- Thank you, sir.
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188. My friend, I can taste victory.
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189. Yes. Yes.
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190. - Shall we?
- Yes.
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191. It's unbelievable.
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192. It's horrible.
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193. Horrible we can sell.
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194. Look, the bastard is nailed. Dead.
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195. He directly contradicts the trap I laid
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196. - when he testified.
- Lee...
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197. it's more than that.
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198. It's evil.
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199. But this is what black
people have always known.
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200. And now
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201. it's right here.
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202. For everyone to hear.
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203. Your Honor, it would be a travesty
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204. if these tapes were not allowed
into the O.J. Simpson trial.
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205. These tapes are tangible evidence
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Department's racism.
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207. They are a revelation of truth.
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208. May I approach the bench, Your Honor?
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209. No, you cannot.
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210. Your Honor, with all due respect,
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211. we ask you to enforce this subpoena
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212. and compel Ms. McKinny
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213. to turn over the tapes.
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214. It is important, it is imperative,
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215. it is... indispensible
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216. that we return them to California.
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217. Thank you, Your Honor.
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218. Mr. Cochran, there are no
TV cameras in my courtroom.
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219. There's no need for...
gratuitous alliteration.
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220. Your request is denied.
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221. These tapes are not
material to your case.
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222. Who is that man
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223. to say that they are not relevant?
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224. - Johnnie...
- Those tapes are proof
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civil rights violations.
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226. What black people have always known.
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227. And what white people
have never understood.
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228. Johnnie, calm down.
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229. We'll just file an emergency appeal.
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230. And this time let me do the talking.
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231. What?
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232. Mr. Cochran, take a good
look where you're standing.
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233. We're in the South.
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234. Haven't you noticed the smell
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235. of mint julep and
condescension in the air?
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236. Right behind you, there's a statue
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237. of a Confederate
soldier holding a rifle.
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238. With all due respect,
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239. I don't know if you
play as well in Dixie.
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240. Your Honors,
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all what a pleasure it is
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243. in the great state of North Carolina.
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244. My heart gladdens with
the promise of justice
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245. when I stand in one of
the original 13 colonies.
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246. From the great Smokey
Mountains to the Pamlico Sound,
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247. I know that fair
consideration will be offered
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248. to all who set foot
in a Tar Heel tribunal.
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249. As the Bible tells us,
"Seek, and ye shall find,"
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250. and I thank the Lord
for helping us to find
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251. these terribly troubling tapes.
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252. The court has received
the tapes and transcripts.
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clerk to make you copies.
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254. I presume it'll take
a good amount of time
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through the materials
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256. and decide how much, if
any, you want to introduce.
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257. Oh, we'll want to introduce
plenty, Your Honor.
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258. - Maybe all of them.
- Your Honor, we will fight that.
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259. Mark Fuhrman consulting on a screenplay
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260. has no bearing on a murder trial.
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261. This is just more of
the defense throwing
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and seeing what sticks.
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263. Oh, it'll stick.
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264. It'll stick with the jury,
it'll stick with the public.
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265. "The public."
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266. What do they have to do with this?
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267. The truth, Marcia, they
have a right to know.
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268. This isn't a smoking
gun in the Simpson case.
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for the United States.
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270. Your Honor, I anticipate this will be
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and make a determination.
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275. Until then, you and your
assistants may review the tapes.
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they are to remain sealed.
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277. You understand? Sealed.
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278. See, if you did it like
they teach you in the Academy,
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279. you'd never get a fucking thing done.
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280. If the suspect doesn't talk,
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281. you give him a shot in the
stomach with your stick,
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282. and you say, "Listen,
boy, I'm talking to you."
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283. Or you just grab 'em by the
hair and you keep punching 'em
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284. until they go down.
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285. See, people don't want
niggers in their town.
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get them out, that's fine.
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290. Do you still use the choke hold?
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291. No, we had to eliminate it,
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292. because a bunch of niggers down
in the south of L.A. complained.
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293. Now, these niggers started
a bunch of organizations,
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294. because all the niggers
got choked out and killed.
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295. The longer this trial goes,
the little your numbers drop.
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296. I know. If we get to the March primary
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297. and people are still
talking about O.J. Simpson,
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wrong with this world.
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299. Oh, God, think my numbers
are about to fall even lower.
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300. Excuse me for a second.
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301. All right. What?
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302. Has Ito ruled on the tapes?
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303. Not yet.
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304. And we're fighting to keep them out.
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305. But while we were reviewing them,
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308. This is bad.
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309. No, I know, he hates
Mexicans, he uses the "N" word,
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slur known to man.
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312. Yes, that is all true,
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none of us saw coming.
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woman, you know the type...
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roots, slumped shoulders,
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on the police force.
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- Wait, whoa.
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322. Is he talking about
Peggy York, Ito's wife?
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that she's a captain.
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325. She's as far from a
policeman as I've seen.
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326. Hell, she's as far from
a woman as I've seen.
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331. Oh, I... cannot believe this!
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332. Jesus! Our star witness
insulting the judge's wife!
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333. Yep, not only does Fuhrman hate
blacks, he hates Peggy York,
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334. the highest ranking woman in the LAPD.
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Sure...
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of any dealings with Fuhrman.
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believe since we learned
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341. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God.
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342. So, which means she can be
called as a material witness,
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343. in which case, Ito has
to disqualify himself,
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344. which means we're looking at a mistrial.
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345. That's $6 million of taxpayer money.
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347. We're looking at a mistrial?
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348. Shit, the constituents will freak out.
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355. We are in perilous waters.
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manipulate this situation.
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trouble, their case is dying.
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358. Suddenly, they get thrown a
life preserver, Peggy on tape.
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359. So they game it, Ito gets
tossed for the conflict,
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361. Jesus, a complete do-over.
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362. W-Wait a minute, try the case again?
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363. We-we can't, we can't
live through this again.
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364. And they could move the
trial back to Santa Monica,
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366. And this time
they don't call Fuhrman,
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367. the LAPD doesn't get tarnished,
and the tapes never get played.
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368. The scenario is unthinkable.
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369. We are this close to
them being admitted.
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371. My wife is mentioned on these tapes?
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372. Yes, Your Honor.
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situation for all of us.
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for Peggy to forget him.
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380. So the implication is that Peggy lied
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381. so that I could be on this case.
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383. All right, I don't want
there to be any insinuation
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continue in open court.
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386. Thank you. If you'll excuse me.
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387. Your Honor.
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to be fair and impartial.
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390. It could be argued that
the court would not want
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392. And what's unfortunate
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about people all the time,
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as any spouse would be.
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could have some impact.
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male-dominated professions,
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403. I think, are tougher than most.
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404. And if they are successful,
they are almost always...
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406. There is also an argument
that this court, in ruling,
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punish Detective Fuhrman
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408. for making these
statements about his wife.
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409. So it cuts both ways.
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410. This may be a conflict for me,
which could trigger a mistrial,
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411. so... I think that another
judge has to determine
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can remain before this court.
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413. This is insane.
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with this plot twist
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416. So... what should we do?
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about this constantly.
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we pushed for mistrial,
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420. it would trigger double jeopardy,
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421. and in that version, O.J. walks.
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422. Can you imagine the public reaction?
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423. What, you think I
wouldn't want a do-over?
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over all of my mistakes.
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428. Oh...
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want to leave our court.
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435. Now, the part that
relates to the judge's wife
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be given to Judge Ito
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comprehensive understanding
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a "comprehensive understanding."
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448. - We need to turn up the pressure.
- Pressure?
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449. You want to turn up the pressure?
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450. This city is about to explode!
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451. We have enough pressure!
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452. Mmm...
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453. I told you not to use Fuhrman!
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454. Now, how many times did I say it?
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455. "He's damaged goods." I
mean, I said it and I said it,
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456. but you just didn't take me seriously.
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457. You know, you put me on this trial
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458. because you wanted a black
face, but the truth is,
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460. Good afternoon.
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members of our coalition.
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the Brotherhood Crusade,
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468. Can we give them all a round of applause
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hour comes to the podium?
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470. We demand an immediate
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471. federal and state
investigation of these tapes.
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472. - Yeah!
- Yeah!
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473. Right!
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474. We demand full disclosure
to calm a community
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reports of their content.
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476. - Right.
- Yeah!
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477. - It goes way beyond O.J.
- Yeah!
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478. People are angry
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what we've always known.
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480. - Yeah!
- Yeah.
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481. Racist officers unjustly imprison,
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482. beat and kill African-Americans
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484. - My God, this is terrible.
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485. I tried to stop him.
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486. I want our leaders to listen
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488. Release these tapes.
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489. Because this community is a powder keg
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490. capable of repeating
the actions of 1992.
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491. - Release the tapes.
- Release the tapes!
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492. - Release the tapes!
- Release the tapes!
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493. Jesus. Johnnie's
threatening another riot.
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494. Release the tapes!
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495. Release the tapes!
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496. - Release the tapes!
- Release the tapes!
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497. Release the tapes!
- Release the tapes!
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498. Release the Juice!
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499. In the O.J. Simpson trial,
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a decision that Judge Ito
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on the Mark Fuhrman tapes.
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502. A hearing is scheduled for today
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503. and a ruling is expected soon
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504. on the highly controversial
and incendiary tapes.
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505. Your Honor,
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507. We will present portions
of that transcript
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508. that are relevant to the credibility
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510. 30 occasions
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with personal experience,
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519. planting of evidence,
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520. commission of perjury,
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521. and the presentation of cover-ups
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522. and false testimony
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523. in court proceedings.
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524. This is the hardest thing I've
ever had to do as a prosecutor.
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525. I don't want to be in the position
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527. My job is to defend Ron and Nicole.
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528. The victims.
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529. But the bottom line
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530. is not Fuhrman.
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531. It's the concrete evidence.
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532. The defense just wants
to inflame the jury
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facts and vote emotionally.
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534. I hope this very cynical
view will be proven wrong
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535. and the jury will rise to
the occasion and say, "No.
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536. We are going to look at the evidence."
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537. Because the rest of
this stuff is irrelevant.
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538. I submit these cases...
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539. numerous cases...
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540. where racial epithets
were deemed immaterial.
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541. I beg of you, Your Honor,
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542. act on precedent.
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543. Do not let the jurors hear these tapes.
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544. I am begging you from my soul.
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545. Any nigger driving a
Porsche who doesn't have
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you can always stop...
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547. Anything out of
a nigger's mouth,
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548. the first five
sentences is a lie.
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549. People don't want Mexicans.
They don't want anybody
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550. but good people.
Doesn't Ito have
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552. The judge has no choice.
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553. He has to play the tapes. They exist.
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554. I don't envy the guy.
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555. I mean, pardon my French,
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556. but he-he's screwed either way.
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557. All rise.
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558. Department 103 is now in session,
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560. Good morning.
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563. Now, I have not yet decided
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566. However, I think that there is
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569. And I don't want there
to be any impression
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suppress any information.
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571. These tapes
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of national concern.
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573. Many entities
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574. have asked that they become public.
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575. So what I'm going to suggest...
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the court in its entirety.
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578. "National concern"? This
is a double homicide,
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579. - Your Honor, not Iran-Contra!
Ms. Clark?
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580. The court in its wisdom
has made a determination.
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581. Why do we have to broadcast this?
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582. Truth, Ms. Clark, the truth.
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583. The court hides nothing from the people.
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584. - The truth?
- Nothing.
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585. You've presented
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based completely on lies
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588. Just teasing the public,
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591. Inflaming the public's
passions in an attempt
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pressure over His Honor.
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the court into admitting
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595. This case is a circus!
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596. And the defense has
made it into a circus.
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597. And the court has allowed
them to walk all over...
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598. Mr. Darden, you are close
to being held in contempt!
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599. Well, I should be held in contempt!
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600. There is nothing funny here!
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601. Mr. Darden.
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602. Chris, calm down.
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603. Don't.
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604. Mr. Darden!
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605. Mr. Darden!
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606. I am warning you.
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607. A good piece of advice...
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breaths, then contemplate
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610. I would like counsel, Your Honor.
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611. All right, Mr. Darden,
you can have counsel.
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612. Do you wish to call your
counsel at this time, Mr. Darden?
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613. I would like to be heard
on behalf of Mr. Darden,
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614. Your Honor.
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615. Ms. Clark, do you represent
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616. Mr. Darden in this matter?
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617. I don't know if I'm legally entitled to.
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618. But I would like to be heard.
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619. Mr. Darden is simply responding
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occurred in this courtroom today
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622. The court has been exploited
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deep breaths, for you also
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626. are about to be held in contempt.
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627. Shall I take off my watch and jewelry?
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628. Your Honor?
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629. Perhaps some of my
comments may have been, um,
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631. I apologize to the court.
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632. I meant no disrespect.
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633. All right, Mr. Darden,
I accept your apology.
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634. I apologize to you for
my reaction as well.
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635. You and I have known each
other for a number of years,
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response was out of character,
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638. Thank you, Your Honor.
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639. No justice!
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640. No peace! No justice! No peace!
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641. No justice! No peace!
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642. No justice! No peace!
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643. No justice! No peace!
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644. No justice! No peace!
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645. No justice! No peace...
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646. Yeah, yeah.
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647. Let's go, after you.
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648. - Johnny.
- No justice! No peace!
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649. No justice! No peace...
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650. Thank you for coming.
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651. Yes, no justice, no peace.
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652. No justice, no peace.
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653. I had 66
allegations of brutality.
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654. Like, two of my buddies
were shot and ambushed.
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655. I was first unit on the scene.
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656. Four suspects ran into an
apartment in the projects.
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657. We kicked the door
down, I grabbed a girl
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grabbed her by the hair
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659. and stuck a gun to her head,
and used her as a barricade.
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660. I walked up and I said,
"I've got this girl.
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661. "I'll blow her fucking brains out
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662. if you come out with a gun."
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663. I held her, then I threw
the bitch down the stairs.
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664. Can we use that in the story?
- Sure.
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hasn't been seven years.
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666. Statute of limitations.
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667. I have 300-something pages
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670. We basically tortured those guys.
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671. We broke their bones until
their faces were mush.
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672. There was blood all the way to
the ceiling and finger marks,
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673. like they were trying to crawl out.
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674. It was unbelievable...
there was blood everywhere.
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675. How do you intellectualize
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676. when you punch the hell out of a nigger?
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677. He either deserves it or he doesn't.
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678. Falsifying a report? Whatever.
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679. That's putting a criminal in jail.
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680. That's being a policeman.
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681. Does that police station
have the smell of niggers?
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682. They've been beaten and
killed in there for 30 years.
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683. Immediately after we beat those guys,
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684. we found a garden hose in the back.
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685. We had blood all over us.
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686. With a dark blue
uniform, you don't see it.
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687. But we had to wash our hands.
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688. It looked like red paint.
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689. We cleaned our badges.
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690. We cleaned our faces.
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691. Then we went out to direct traffic.
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692. What happened in there.
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693. This is now the Fuhrman trial.
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694. This is not a trial
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695. about the man
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697. We came to this court
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699. You know, I just realized something.
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700. What's that?
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701. Mark Fuhrman's initials are MF.
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702. I guess that's funny.
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703. But I don't feel like laughing.
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704. It seems like...
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705. like it's all over.
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706. Ito could save our asses.
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707. He could decide it's all irrelevant
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708. and not let the jurors hear anything.
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709. Come on, Marcia.
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710. They'll hear.
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711. A couple conjugal
visits is all it takes.
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712. Number of instances in which
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the worst police misconduct.
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714. He seems to be bragging about the fact
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716. I'm so sorry I didn't listen to you.
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719. I always refuse to back down.
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720. It's a problem.
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721. I shouldn't have bet on Fuhrman.
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722. Well...
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723. if we're apologizing...
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724. then I'm sorry as
shit about those gloves.
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725. Guess we should've
listened to each other.
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726. I got some work to do.
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727. These tapes
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729. It can never again be denied.
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730. And we only hope and
pray that Chief Williams
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his promise of change.
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732. Eh, I trust that's
enough for your story.
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733. And thank you.
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734. - What?
- Ito is releasing the decision.
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735. Yes.
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736. Come on, come on, come on.
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737. No, Give me. Give me.
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738. Give me. No.
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739. - No.
- No.
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740. No, it's a nightmare.
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741. Ito shafted us.
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742. He's disallowing all the beatings,
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744. My God, he's only
allowing in two sentences.
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745. "We have no niggers where I grew up.
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746. And that's where the niggers live."
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747. - All Ito cares about is the perjury!
- The perjury, yes!
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748. Fuhrman testified that
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749. So two sentences prove otherwise.
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751. Uh, "The-The-Their value
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752. "is overwhelmingly outweighed
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753. by the danger of undue prejudice."
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754. "Prejudice"... that's a
hell of a word to use.
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755. Bring the whole team down here
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756. and call up every network!
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757. Shawn, dry them tears, girl. Let's go!
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758. 13 hours of tapes down to two sentences.
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759. In the history of American
jurisprudence, never...
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760. Johnnie, stop!
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761. You're turning this into a referendum.
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762. Now, granted, it's a mixed decision,
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763. but Ito's given us enough to work with.
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764. Bob, you're blind.
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765. He's knocked out the
manufacturing of evidence.
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766. That's what gets us
to the planted glove.
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767. Now, look, I appreciate your passion.
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768. But we've been hired to defend a client,
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769. not to burn down a city.
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770. Now, I'm sorry that you're
disappointed, and I understand...
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771. No, you don't! That's impossible.
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772. There is no way you can understand
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774. It's one of the cruelest,
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776. It lends credence to all those who say
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777. the criminal justice system is corrupt.
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778. Now, Judge Ito is misleading this jury.
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779. Now, all the world knows
who Mark Fuhrman really is,
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780. except our jury.
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781. Our jury will be left in the dark.
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782. O.J. Simpson has been wrongly accused
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783. and framed, and the cover-up continues.
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784. Now, I know that many people
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785. share in our anger,
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786. but the citizens of Los Angeles
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787. should remain calm.
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788. Here, baby.
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789. Thank you.
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790. I'm still trembling.
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791. I'd...
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792. I'd hoped to accomplish so much.
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795. Those two lines say plenty.
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796. I feel like I failed.
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797. All those hours of tape
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799. But the world...
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800. they heard the whole truth.
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801. The hell with O.J. Simpson.
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802. He is an imperfect vessel,
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803. but you... you...
got your message out there.
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804. I'm proud of you, Johnnie.
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805. Boo!
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806. We call Detective Mark Fuhrman
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808. It's hard to be hated by both sides.
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809. It takes a man of certain character.
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810. All right. Good
afternoon, Detective.
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812. You are reminded, Detective,
that you are still under oath.
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813. - Mr. Cochran, you may proceed.
- Thank you, Your Honor.
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818. I wish to assert my
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821. I wish to assert my
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- Of course.
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828. Your Honor,
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830. The witness has already made clear
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832. Actually, Your Honor,
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834. - Thank you.
- Oh.
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837. I assert my Fifth Amendment privilege.
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840. Johnnie is a genius!
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842. Oh, man!
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844. He framed me!
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845. That was something, huh?
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846. That was a real success for the defense.
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847. Well, I won't be wearing
these much longer.
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848. Oh, man, that was magical!
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849. Johnnie's got charisma, man.
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850. Whoo!
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851. Oh. That was something!
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852. Oh!
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853. Bobby, have a good night, huh?
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854. Wow...
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855. Wow.
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856. Marcia!
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857. I've been looking for you.
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859. The ruling?
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860. What did Ito do now?
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861. Ito? No.
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862. The ruling on your divorce.
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