1. - Peter Irvine,
I have your son.
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2. If this is a prank call,
I swear to God—
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3. - It's not a prank.
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4. You tell anybody about this,
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5. you never find out what
happens to your son.
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6. He just won't ever come home.
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7. You need to get
some cash together.
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8. You had a gambling problem,
I went into business with you.
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9. You're so grateful.
- I am grateful.
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10. There's a trust I manage.
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11. Let's use the funds from there
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12. to replenish
the Philips account.
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13. - Whose trust is it?
- Lia Irvine.
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14. Hey, Col.
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15. Hey.
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16. My sister's unpredictable.
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17. She's sweet and she's fun,
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18. and then there's a mess
to clean up.
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19. Brian was, uh,
not born disabled.
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20. There was an accident,
and it was Lia's fault.
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21. He can't communicate with us,
Case.
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22. You're a great mom.
He loves you to pieces.
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23. I'm here to pick up
my son, Milo.
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24. I think
you've got the wrong house.
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25. Oh, uh—
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26. I didn't know
if you'd want to see me.
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27. Must bring up awful memories.
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28. Ana and Carrie were friends.
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29. I do know Carrie Finch.
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30. She wanted to know what
kinds of food Milo likes
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31. and his bedtime routine.
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32. - What happened, Ana?
- She was with someone.
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33. Now I think that
she wanted them to meet Milo.
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34. How well do you remember
the Chicago Marathon?
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35. It was the day that
this man met Milo.
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36. What happened?
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37. Did he do something to Milo?
Did he hurt Milo?
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38. So after you tag
marathon, running,
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39. Chicago, stuff like that,
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40. and then you run
a facial recognition software
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41. for both Milo and Carrie,
then this is what you get.
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42. Who are you?
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43. Local authorities
have reiterated
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44. the importance
of coordinated efforts
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45. and praised volunteers
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46. for their dedication
and cooperation.
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47. If you have any information
that may assist
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48. in locating Milo, please
contact local authorities.
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49. It's open.
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50. Do you want a new one?
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51. I said do you want a new one?
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52. Uh, no.
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53. No, it's, uh—it's good.
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54. 8.29.
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55. I'm tired.
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56. Oh, I know.
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57. I'll get you back to
your bed soon, OK?
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58. My real bed
or my vacation bed?
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59. Vacation bed.
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60. You like it, right?
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61. Yeah.
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62. We'll get back to
the vacation house real soon.
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63. But first we need to do
one quick thing, OK?
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64. Just you and me.
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65. Why not Carrie?
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66. Remember?
I told you?
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67. Carrie has to hide whenever
she can 'cause she's famous.
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68. Are you famous?
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69. No.
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70. Because you can't have
two famous people, Milo.
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71. That would be a problem.
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72. I looked at the website
again, Jim.
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73. Yeah.
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74. He'd be with kids
with the same diagnosis.
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75. He'd have his own aide all day.
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76. One person to take him
to the bathroom.
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77. Or help him with his meals,
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78. or—
- Take him to the pool.
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79. Because they have
their own pool.
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80. I hate how much I want it.
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81. I hate thinking about
how much more he could develop
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82. if he just—
just had help.
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83. Honey, I want it too.
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84. But they only have one spot.
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85. It's a lottery.
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86. For someone's future.
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87. It's—it's so wrong.
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88. It's so wrong.
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89. You know what I thought of
the other day?
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90. What?
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91. Sam's never gonna
be an asshole.
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92. Of course
he won't be an asshole.
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93. Well, no, no.
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94. OK, just think of all the
assholes in the world, right?
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95. No, like—
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96. just, like, everyday people
you don't want to be around.
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97. Yeah.
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98. - Those assholes...
- Mm-hmm.
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99. They have parents.
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100. - Yeah, I know.
- Right?
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101. OK.
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102. And so would you rather
have an asshole like that
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103. as your grown-up kid?
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104. You know,
somebody who's married
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105. and has a job
and all that normal stuff?
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106. Or would you rather
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107. have—
- Sam?
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108. Yeah, Sam.
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109. Look, I know he's never
gonna live independently,
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110. and maybe he doesn't do math,
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111. but he's never gonna be someone
you don't want to be around.
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112. Oh.
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113. And he's always good
for a hug.
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114. We're lucky.
- We're lucky.
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115. I'd still do anything
to get him into St. Mark's.
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116. Anything.
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117. Me too.
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118. I'm applying
for a new villain loan.
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119. Go by the name of Vector.
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120. We ran facial recognition
on the guy.
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121. From the marathon?
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122. Yeah,
and we didn't get any hits.
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123. There was a shadow
from the hoodie.
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124. - I'm sorry.
- Yeah.
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125. And we don't have, uh,
an ID on the nanny yet.
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126. No ransom demand to work off
of, and we're on day four.
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127. You gonna release
the picture to the public?
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128. We've still got one more
Hail Mary.
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129. After that, I don't know.
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130. I mean, if we put his
picture out there—
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131. Well, then he'll know
you're looking for him.
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132. Yeah, exactly.
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133. You think
he could be violent?
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134. Uh...
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135. I think even good people can do
bad things if they're pushed.
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136. Sam the man, can you point?
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137. Which one?
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138. Couldn't agree with you more.
Green ones are gross.
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139. Ugh!
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140. Hey, you'll make the
right call on the picture.
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141. 'Cause you always
make the right call.
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142. Thank you.
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143. Hey, sweet boy.
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144. Daddy's gonna look
after you today, OK?
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145. You be good for him, OK?
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146. - OK.
- OK, OK.
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147. Let me see.
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148. - Ooh.
- What is that one?
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149. I'm applying
for a new villain loan.
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150. Go by the name of...
Vector.
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151. Hey, Sammy boy, do you
know what a Hail Mary is?
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152. - Yes.
- It's my last big chance, OK?
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153. You ready?
- Yeah.
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154. OK. Ring, ring.
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155. Ring, ring.
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156. Here you go, here you go.
Yes.
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157. OK.
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158. Hi.
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159. Hello, Ms. Kaminski.
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160. Thank you for agreeing
to talk to me so early.
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161. Yeah, of course.
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162. You and your husband
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163. didn't recognize the man
from the picture,
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164. but, uh, Jacob might.
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165. Uh, you know,
Carrie was his nanny,
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166. and it could be
that he saw Carrie
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167. and that man together
at some point.
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168. Could I get your permission
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169. to show him a picture
and ask him a few questions?
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170. Oh, of course, yeah.
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171. Jacob, can you come
here for a minute?
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172. Come here.
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173. Wait, wait, wait.
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174. This is the man that's
helping to find Milo.
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175. Is it OK if he asks you
a few questions?
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176. Can I show him my letters?
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177. OK. Yeah, but real quick.
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178. He, um, wants to
show you his letters.
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179. He's learning to write.
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180. Oh, yeah, no,
I definitely want to see that.
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181. Ooh, wow.
You are so good, Jacob.
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182. Well done, buddy.
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183. - What do you say?
- Thank you.
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184. No, no, I mean it, Jacob.
You're really good at letters.
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185. Do you have a good memory, too?
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186. Yeah.
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187. Mm, good.
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188. So I'm gonna show you
a picture of a man,
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189. and I want you to tell me
if you recognize him.
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190. OK.
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191. Do you recognize the man
in the picture?
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192. Mm-mm.
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193. It's all right, buddy.
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194. Thank you for looking.
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195. I, uh—I'll keep you updated,
Ms. Kaminski.
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196. Thank you.
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197. You want an airplane?
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198. OK, you ready?
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199. Oh, there's turbulence!
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200. OK, we're back now.
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201. Oh!
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202. Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Hey, OK, hey.
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203. I—I need you to be really
quiet for this one, OK?
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204. Ring, ring.
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205. Here.
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206. Go, go, go, go.
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207. Hello, Ms. Irvine.
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208. Oh, hi.
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209. Uh, are there any updates on—
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210. on—on that man?
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211. Uh, no one in
the Kaminski family
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213. Uh, I think our next best bet
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214. is to run his picture
in the press.
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215. And, uh, ask the public to
come forward with information.
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216. But, uh,
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217. if he sees his
picture everywhere,
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218. and—
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219. and he has Milo, then—
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220. you know, I—
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221. I think it was different
with—with—with Carrie,
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222. because she's a woman,
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223. and—and we at least know
she took good care of Jacob.
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224. Yeah, no, I understand.
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225. But if this man has Milo
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226. and he sees his face
on the news and—
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227. and panics—
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228. Oh, I'm—I'm—I'm—
I'm sorry.
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229. I'm—I'm—
I'm sorry, Ms. Irvine.
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230. - Uh—
- Stop.
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231. Do—do you think
this is the right thing to do?
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232. Y-yes, I do.
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233. OK.
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234. OK, I, uh, I-I trust you.
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235. Thank you.
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236. And your jacket now.
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237. OK, we'll go in there.
- Now?
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238. Yeah.
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239. Hey.
Hey, can I tell you something?
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240. OK.
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241. That you're a good kid
and I love you very much.
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242. Yeah!
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243. Now get out of here.
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244. Hey. Hey.
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245. Paul.
Honey.
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246. Oh, hey, Rick.
Good to hear from you.
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247. Is this about
the school lottery?
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248. Has Sam gotten in?
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249. No, not exactly.
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250. You know I had to step off
the applicant committee.
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251. - Yeah.
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252. I know you.
I know Casey and Sam.
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253. I-I'd be biased.
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254. Of course.
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255. No, no, no, no, it—it—
totally understood.
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256. It was just a joke.
I was just joking.
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257. Look, there's
a lot of applicants this year.
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258. There's only one
reduced tuition spot,
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259. and I know how bad you
and Casey want this for Sam.
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260. Yeah, yeah.
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261. I'm just gonna say it.
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262. The associate dean here,
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263. his son was arrested
at a party last night.
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264. Possession of a controlled substance.
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265. Xanax?
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266. - How'd you know?
- 'Cause he's a rich kid.
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267. They all
steal their mom's Xanax
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268. and then they
take it to parties.
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269. Tell him I said he's got
nothing to worry about, OK?
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270. He'll do drug treatment
and community service,
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271. and then he can get it
expunged off his record
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272. if he's clean for a year.
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273. But he's applying
for colleges in the fall.
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274. It won't be expunged by then.
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275. Well, no,
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276. because he got caught
with a controlled substance.
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277. That's how the law works.
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278. Don't you guys, like, have
to prove that it's Xanax?
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279. I saw some documentary
where you—
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280. where you send it away to a lab
to get—
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281. Yeah, send it to the lab
for testing.
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282. We do it for every drug charge.
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283. Has it been sent off yet?
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284. Probably not
for a week or two.
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285. Why?
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286. He told the officers
that it was Tylenol,
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287. that he was just carrying it
around in a prescription bottle
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288. to look cool at the party.
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289. But they didn't believe him.
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290. Probably because
it wasn't true.
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291. What if it was Tylenol?
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292. I'm not that guy.
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293. It would get Sam
into St. Mark's.
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294. Wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait.
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295. Let me make sure I understand
what's on the table here.
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296. I risk my career to give a rich
kid another advantage in life,
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297. and in exchange,
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298. my kid gets his basic
educational needs met?
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299. And this deal is coming
from a man with the power
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300. to help a dozen kids,
maybe more.
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301. But instead, he offers one spot
to lower-income kids.
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302. One spot.
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303. Fuck it.
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304. Fuck him.
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305. I'm not that guy, pal.
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306. Answer's no.
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307. Breaking news.
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308. The police have released
a photo of a man
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309. they are calling
a person of interest
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310. in the kidnapping...
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311. A new development in the
kidnapping of Milo Irvine.
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312. Police have released a photo
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313. of a person of interest
earlier today.
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314. What this guy
brings out of his—
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315. This guy's face
is everywhere now.
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316. I mean, he can't go anywhere.
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317. If Milo isn't found,
there will be backlash.
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318. To find Milo,
it's a good idea.
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319. I mean, if you want
to catch a criminal,
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320. you have to think like them.
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321. We want to find Milo.
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322. Vehicle forensics came
in on the nanny car.
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323. - And?
- There's nothing useful.
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324. There's prints from the dad,
the mom, the kid.
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325. We can identify all of them.
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326. There's several prints
from other adults,
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327. just no way to know
which are hers.
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328. So the car was used
by other people?
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329. Yeah, unfortunately.
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330. And it's opened up
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331. at this school drive-through,
passenger's side,
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332. by whoever's
getting the kids out.
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333. So there's lots of prints
through the school.
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334. How did we do
at the milkshake shop?
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335. Interviewed four
staff members.
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336. Two of them say
they recognized the nannies,
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337. that they stood
in line together,
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338. but they didn't notice
anything else about them.
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339. Said they talked.
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340. Mm.
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341. Anything on our marathon man?
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342. There's a lot of calls,
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343. but nothing that's been flagged
for us yet other than
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344. lots of people still thinking
the whole thing was staged.
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345. Detectives,
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346. think there's someone here
you should talk to.
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347. OK, ma'am, I know
you've spoken to officers
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348. a few different times.
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349. Please allow me to catch up.
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350. So you live
1800 Crescent Hollow Road?
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351. Yes.
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352. The same address that
Marissa Irvine was sent to
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353. the day her child was
kidnapped?
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354. Yes.
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355. And now you're saying you
know the man from the marathon?
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356. His name is Kyle Smit.
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357. I was his foster mother
for a little over a year.
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358. What got Kyle into
the foster system?
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359. He never had parents
to speak of.
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360. There was an aunt,
but she overdosed.
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361. Oxy.
Kyle's from South Shore.
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362. That drug has just destroyed
the whole neighborhood.
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363. Kyle was 16, still a minor.
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364. He was placed with me.
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365. How'd that go?
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366. I loved having him.
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367. And I think he was happy
with me, too.
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368. He enrolled in a GED program,
graduated high school.
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369. I have a picture of that day.
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370. What more can you tell us
about Kyle?
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371. He was a little skittish
by nature.
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372. Otherwise, he was mostly quiet.
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373. And kind.
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374. I don't believe he would
be involved in a kidnapping.
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375. It just doesn't make sense.
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376. Did Kyle have a girlfriend?
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377. Never that I knew of, no.
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378. Do you and Kyle
still keep in touch?
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379. He turned 18 and wasn't
in the foster system anymore.
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380. He went and stayed
with a friend
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while he looked for work.
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382. And he got a job, too.
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383. Oh.
Doing what?
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384. Construction.
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385. Hmm.
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386. And he was so nervous.
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388. He called me on his first day
on his way in.
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389. He had to take a few buses
to get there
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390. and we talked the whole way
till he felt better.
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391. But it doesn't mean anything
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393. High school diploma
and a job, sure, but
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what they pay you.
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395. Last I heard, he was arrested
for selling OxyContin.
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396. Judge gave him six years.
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397. Ma'am, have you seen
this picture in the news?
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398. Yes.
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399. I know she's suspected of
taking that little boy, Milo.
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401. No.
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to visit Kyle?
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403. No.
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404. Did Kyle ever mention
anyone named Carrie?
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406. I'm sorry, no.
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407. OK.
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409. you don't believe Kyle
was involved in the kidnapping.
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410. I don't.
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411. Even though Kyle and
the kidnapper are connected,
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412. we have pictures
of them together,
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413. and you just described Kyle
as a young man
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414. without any money or legitimate
prospects for making money.
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415. And of all addresses
in all of Chicago,
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416. the very wealthy Marissa Irvine
gets sent to your home
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417. on the day of the kidnapping,
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418. the home where Kyle Smit
lived for over a year.
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419. And you honestly believe
that this is all a coincidence?
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420. We have a name.
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421. Kyle Daniel Smit.
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422. The address
Marissa Irvine was texted
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423. on the day of the kidnapping
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424. belongs to Kyle Smit's
former foster mother,
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425. pointing to him as more than
just an acquaintance
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427. We're now looking
at his potential involvement
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428. in Milo's abduction.
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429. All right, let's pull
everything we can on Kyle.
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430. Let's start with
the driver's license.
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431. I got it here.
State of Illinois.
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432. Expired?
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433. - No. Record's clean.
- OK.
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434. Check in with Hertz
and Enterprise and all of them
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435. and see if
he's rented a car recently.
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436. If so, I want the make, model,
and plate
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437. and any GPS data they have.
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438. After that, credit checks.
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439. How has he spent his money?
Has he rented an apartment?
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440. If he's using an ATM
in the last month,
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441. I want the banking information
and CCTV with it.
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442. We're gonna get pushback
on all those requests.
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443. Unless we're getting a warrant.
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444. Prison file's right here.
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445. What do we need to know?
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446. Uh, drug offense,
like the foster mom said.
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447. Not a single visitor until
a week before his release.
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448. Visitor was Caroline Finch.
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449. OK, Kyle Smit is no longer
a person of interest.
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450. He is now a suspect.
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451. Get that warrant.
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452. I'll get the paperwork
going for the judge.
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453. A prison visit
right before his release.
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454. Carrie's already
working for the Kaminski family
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455. and getting closer
to making her move on Milo.
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456. Let's talk to
Kyle's cellmate,
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457. see what he said
after Carrie left that day.
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458. I started my time here
about a year ago.
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459. They put me in with Kyle
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460. and I shared a cell with him
right up until his release.
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461. Did you guys get along?
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462. Yes, sir. Yeah.
I mean, Kyle was quiet.
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463. It wasn't easy
to get to know him.
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464. But, um, he broke down
eventually, started talking.
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465. What did you guys talk about?
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466. Construction, mostly.
We both worked in that.
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467. Kyle was a drywall installer
before he came here.
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468. Is that what you did?
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469. No, sir.
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470. No, I was with, uh,
Secure Builders
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471. up in Crestline there
from 2017 to 2023.
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472. You know, I was a foreman
and I just worked my way up
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473. to project manager.
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474. They're real good people there.
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475. Good people.
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476. Did Kyle ever talk
about a girlfriend?
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477. Most of these guys,
they talk about a girlfriend.
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478. And she is always real pretty,
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479. but never shows up
on visiting day, you know?
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480. Well, did Kyle ever
talk about a girlfriend
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481. that you thought was real?
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482. No.
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483. People like Kyle and me,
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484. we know there's nothing
on the outside anymore.
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485. For us,
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486. it's best not
to talk about that.
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487. Was one girl, though.
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488. She came to visit.
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489. The only reason I remember,
she was the only one.
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490. It was like a week
before he got out.
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491. But I don't know.
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492. He didn't act like it was
his girlfriend or anything.
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493. What did he act like?
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494. He was just...
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495. quiet for a few days.
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496. I thought it was, like,
his sister, cousin,
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497. something like that.
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498. Bad family news.
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499. Uh, you know,
I was just guessing.
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500. Did you see her?
The girl that visited Kyle?
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501. No, sir.
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502. Was it that nanny?
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503. Why do you ask that?
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504. We all seen the news.
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505. Seen the picture.
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506. It's not hard to put
the pieces together.
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507. The woman who visited
Kyle Smit was the nanny, yes.
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508. Carrie Finch.
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509. Though that's not
her real name.
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510. All right,
pretend you're me
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511. and you want to find Kyle Smit
right now.
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512. Where's the first place
you would look?
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513. Well, usually
I'd say with his dealer,
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514. but, uh, Kyle only sold stuff,
so...
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515. I'd say your best bet's
his old neighborhood.
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516. Nobody there is gonna want
to talk to the cops,
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517. but I'd still try.
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518. Kyle's only relative
from South Shore is long gone.
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519. Do you really think
he'd go back there still?
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520. Seeing his face on TV,
you know,
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521. if he knows he's in trouble,
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522. probably just run back
to his old neighborhood.
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523. Might be all he has left.
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524. Hey, thank you.
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525. You're welcome.
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526. You bring that boy home
to his mama.
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527. Yes, sir.
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528. OK, so she visits him
a week before his release.
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529. Doesn't sound like
it was a happy visit.
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530. How do we think they met?
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531. Well, she could have met him
while he was serving time.
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532. What, like through letters?
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533. Yeah, I doubt that, too.
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534. If they knew each other
from before he went in,
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535. it was when Kyle was
living in South Shore.
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536. So it stands to reason
Carrie's from there, too.
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537. Well, officers
found yearbooks from Kyle,
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538. grade school on up.
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539. There's no picture
of anyone who resembles Carrie,
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540. even looking up and down
a few grades.
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541. OK, what was Kyle doing
in South Shore besides school?
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542. Where could he meet somebody?
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543. Work.
Construction.
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544. There's not a lot
of young girls in drywall.
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545. That doesn't mean
her dad's not a drywaller.
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546. There's, like, 15 drywall
places in South Shore.
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547. We can send officers out
to all of them now if you want.
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548. I mean, suits are hard enough
in a place like South Shore.
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549. Uniforms are dead in the water.
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550. Let's see
if we can narrow it down.
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551. The aunt who ODed—
what's that address?
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552. That's, uh,
South Bennett Avenue.
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553. OK. The foster mom said when
Kyle turned 18, he left her,
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554. then went back to live
with his old friends.
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555. That's got to be
near South Bennett.
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556. There's, like,
four or five drywalling places
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557. around South Bennett.
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558. Yeah, but we want
to look away
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559. from South Bennett, remember?
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560. Because the foster mom
said that Kyle called her
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561. on his commute.
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562. He had a few bus rides.
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563. So if we're starting off
in South Bennett,
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564. what's a drywall place
a few busses out?
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565. Uh...
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566. I got two.
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567. Well, he was arrested
in 2019.
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568. Any chance one of them was
around before then?
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569. You got it.
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570. Let's go.
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571. You know, I'm starting
to think people around here
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572. don't like talking to cops.
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573. Yeah, but someone's gonna
want to catch the bus home.
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574. They'll probably be alone and
we could try them again then.
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575. So we'll just wait.
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576. Sam's school call?
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577. No, we're good.
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578. Hey, sorry we're out here
with two cars, you know?
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579. It's no big deal.
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580. It's just if they do call,
you know—
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581. That's how Sam days work, man.
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582. You and Casey trade off.
I get it.
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583. You sleeping?
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584. No. You?
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585. Eh, so-so.
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586. Huh.
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587. I—I saw this thing, and
I can't stop thinking about it.
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588. It's like a—
a loop in my head, you know?
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589. Like OCD, you know?
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590. I saw this documentary
on old sanatoriums.
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591. And back then,
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592. anyone with a mental disorder,
they'd just throw you in,
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593. tie you up, drug you,
shock you.
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594. Like, all that stuff,
I already knew, you know?
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595. But then I saw this, uh—
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596. you know, they showed this room
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597. with cribs,
but like, big cribs.
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598. For, like,
six- and seven-year-olds.
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599. And the cribs had tops.
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600. And the tops locked, you know.
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601. And that's where they put
the kids who couldn't talk.
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602. Like, that, I, uh—
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603. I didn't know that part,
you know?
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604. Hey, Jim.
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605. Hmm?
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606. Sam's a happy kid.
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607. Every time I see him,
he's smiling.
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608. Yeah, he likes you.
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609. It's 'cause
I bring him candy.
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610. I'm not above bribery.
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611. Here we go.
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612. Ma'am, sorry to bother you.
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613. We didn't get a chance
to talk to you inside.
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614. - Yeah, we're not talking now.
- You were on the phone.
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615. Go away.
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616. It's about a missing child.
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617. I don't know anything.
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618. Was there ever an employee
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619. named Kyle Smit
working with you?
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620. Did you have any interaction
with him at all?
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621. Anything you can tell us?
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622. You recognize her at all?
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623. Maybe seen her around?
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624. She goes by the name
Carrie Finch.
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625. Never seen her.
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626. Yeah.
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627. OK, get a BOLO out now and send
me the last known coordinates
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628. and a list of all the hotels
and motels in the area.
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629. Abandoned houses, too.
Good man.
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630. Kyle Smit rented a 2019
white Toyota Camry a week ago.
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631. Hasn't returned it.
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632. GPS was disabled.
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633. We got our car.
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634. Carrie Finch.
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635. Where'd you come up
with that name, Josie?
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636. Peter will be back soon.
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637. He's putting up some flyers
with his sister.
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638. One of us always stays
at the house in case.
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639. Uh, you know.
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640. It's funny how fast
you set up patterns.
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641. Yeah.
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642. Milo was really creative
with his colors.
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643. Yeah.
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644. Yeah, he wouldn't—
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645. He wouldn't
practice the alphabet
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646. unless we got him new markers.
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647. Mm-hmm.
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648. His name is Kyle Smit.
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649. Is that name familiar
to you at all?
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650. That name?
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651. - No.
- No?
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652. He was, uh, recently
released from prison
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653. for a nonviolent offense.
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654. Carrie visited Kyle
a week before he was released,
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655. and that connects them
even before the marathon.
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656. Uh...
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657. what was he in—in prison for?
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658. Possession with
intent to sell.
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659. A Schedule II substance.
Uh, OxyContin.
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660. So we now have two adults
working in tandem
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661. to carry out a very complex
and risky crime,
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662. two adults that would have
to be on the same page
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663. about their motivation
to kidnap a very young child.
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664. It doesn't appear
as though either of you
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665. have a personal connection
with Kyle or Carrie,
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666. which means that
it's highly likely
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667. that the motivation
behind the crime is financial.
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668. Now, it can be a temptation
to handle a ransom demand
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669. without coordinating
with the police,
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670. but please believe me, that is
not the right course of action.
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671. But we're not handling
anything on our own.
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672. What's your son's name?
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673. Sam.
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674. I'm sorry.
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675. I-I didn't mean for you
to hear him like that.
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676. Oh, it's OK.
It's all right.
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677. How old is he?
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678. He's 13.
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679. He's got a few disabilities.
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680. You know, he can't speak
or understand very much.
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681. Do you have a picture?
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682. Uh, you don't have to show me.
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683. No, no, it's—
it's—it's fine.
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684. It's fine.
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685. Oh, he's cute.
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686. Thank you.
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687. He looks happy.
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688. You want to sit down?
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689. Yeah.
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690. Do you worry about him?
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691. Everyone worries
about their kids, right?
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692. I mean, I haven't cornered
the market on that one.
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693. Well,
that's not how you feel.
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694. Well, it's not.
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695. You don't have to tell me
how you do feel.
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696. It's none of my business.
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697. But I know a rehearsed answer
when I hear one.
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698. You do worry.
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699. More than most.
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700. Um...
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701. Mrs. Irvine, is—
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702. is there a chance that
your husband may have
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703. received a ransom notification
and perhaps not told you?
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704. No, no.
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705. He wouldn't do that.
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706. He wouldn't keep something
that big from me.
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707. He likes to take care of people
and, uh...
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708. You know,
takes charge on instinct a lot.
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709. But no, not—not that.
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710. Not with this.
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711. Why do you think he likes
to take care of people so much?
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712. Uh, I don't know.
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713. I think he's just
always done it.
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714. He's always been in charge
of his siblings.
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715. Yeah, Peter said there was an
accident when they were kids.
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716. Mm, yeah.
He was ten.
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717. Yeah.
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718. Uh, Lia and Brian,
they were little.
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719. Four and six, I think.
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720. You know, they were playing and
she was overexcited and hyper
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721. and Brian—
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722. It was an accident,
how he fell.
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723. But I think that it's—
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724. Lia has grown up with that
on her conscience.
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725. And it's sort of shaped
who she is as a person.
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726. I don't know.
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727. We all have our own shit,
though, hey?
Copy !req
728. I worry about Sam
getting sick.
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729. Like cancer.
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730. You know, he's having symptoms
and he can't tell us,
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731. so we don't catch it
until it's too late.
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732. I worry about when my wife
and I are gone and
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733. Sam getting older in some
crappy public-funded home.
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734. I worry about who's
gonna take care of him.
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735. Are they gonna be nice to him?
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736. And lately—
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737. lately, I worry, uh...
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738. That maybe I'm sort of happy
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739. that he doesn't understand
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740. so much, you know, because if—
because if he did...
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741. if he knew me better,
then maybe
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742. he wouldn't hug me
the way he does, you know?
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743. That's—
that's what I think of.
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744. I promised myself that, uh...
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745. if Milo comes—
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746. uh, when Milo comes back,
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747. I will do whatever it takes
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748. to make sure that nothing bad
ever happens to him again.
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749. Doesn't matter
what it is, I will do it.
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750. Because that's our job.
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751. We'd do anything for our kids.
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752. Anything.
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753. The address you were given
for Milo's playdate,
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754. 1800 Crescent Hollow Road?
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755. Yeah.
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756. The woman who lives there—
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757. - Esther.
- Esther.
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758. She was Kyle Smit's foster mom.
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759. What?
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760. Uh, well, I—well,
I have to talk to her, then.
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761. One thing.
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762. Esther was the only person
in Kyle's life
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763. to ever be kind to him.
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764. And if Kyle is involved
in your son's kidnapping,
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765. he knew you were gonna have
the worst day of your life,
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766. and he sent you to the
most loving person he knew.
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767. That's not nothing.
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768. - Hey, Jackson.
- Hey.
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769. Hey.
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770. Sam was such
a blessing today, really.
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771. Oh, I'm glad to hear that.
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772. We've been short-staffed
all day
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773. and a few of the other kids
were struggling a bit.
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774. I was sure I was going to have
to call you or your wife.
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775. But then Sam,
he came through for us.
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776. Sam the man.
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777. He's been over there
doing his puzzle
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778. for the last two hours.
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779. Two hours?
Wow.
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780. He is a sweet boy.
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781. I love having him here with us.
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782. Thank you, thank you.
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783. Sam the man.
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784. Hey, I heard you were
pretty great today.
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785. Right.
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786. Can I get a hug?
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787. Oh!
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788. One more hug.
One more hug.
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789. Yeah.
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790. Here.
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791. You know the deal, OK?
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792. - No Mommy.
- Don't tell Mommy.
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793. Yeah.
It's nice.
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794. Nice.
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795. Like that.
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796. Thank you, Sammy.
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797. Oh, are you?
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798. - How is it?
- Good.
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799. Good?
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800. OK, spit.
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801. Now get out of here.
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802. Yeah?
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803. You made the right call
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804. releasing the picture
of that marathon man.
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805. First we got his name,
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806. now we've got
our biggest lead yet.
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807. On my way.
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808. So I wasn't sure
if it was him
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809. from the picture on the news,
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810. but when you said what kind of
car you were looking for,
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811. I went back
and checked out cameras.
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812. That the guy you want?
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813. It is.
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814. Did he come inside
to pay for anything?
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815. Yeah, but we don't
have those tapes.
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816. Rerecorded today, sorry.
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817. What can you
tell us about him?
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818. Just that he bought
some mac and cheese.
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819. Anything else?
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820. No.
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821. We're gonna need
a copy of that.
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822. What kind of mac and cheese?
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823. Huh?
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824. Well, there's the kind
that you make in a microwave
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825. and the other,
you need a stove.
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826. Which one did he buy?
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827. A lot of shitty hotels
and motels have microwaves
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828. either in the room
or at the front desk,
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829. but none of them have stoves.
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830. Kyle Smit bought mac and cheese
that had to be made on a stove.
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831. They gotta have a house
around here somewhere.
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832. Yeah, and it'd have to
be somewhere close to here.
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833. They wouldn't risk
driving a long distance,
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834. not just for some food.
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835. There's a bunch of little lake
house rentals right over there.
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836. This is the closest place
to buy groceries.
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837. Well, I mean, sure,
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838. she's just about the same age
as the kidnapper.
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839. But they don't look alike,
I don't think.
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840. Her hair was darker and long,
and—
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841. yeah, she was all done up
in makeup.
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842. Is this her place?
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843. Yeah.
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844. I mean, I'll show if you like.
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845. - Mm.
- But she's gone for sure.
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846. So she checked out?
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847. She didn't have to.
She paid in advance.
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848. It's just in here.
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849. Granny?
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850. Granny must
be having a party.
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851. I hope they are careful
with their cigarettes.
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852. Here it comes.
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853. Granny!
- Come in!
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854. Hi, Granny!
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855. Call forensics.
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856. Hey, honey.
Sorry, this is taking a while.
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857. I, uh—
- Have you checked your email?
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858. Honey?
- No, no.
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859. H-he got in.
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860. Sam's got into St. Mark's.
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861. - Oh, really?
- Really!
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862. It's happened.
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863. I don't know how it happened,
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864. but it's happened,
and I can't—
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865. I can't even.
Copy !req
866. I'm so happy!
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867. I feel so guilty.
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868. All those other parents
will be devastated.
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869. I mean, these are—
these are people we know.
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870. Everybody deserves it
just as much as our Sam.
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871. Oh, God.
I feel horrible.
Copy !req
872. But I'm so relieved.
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873. We found a body.
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874. We're just
the luckiest people.
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875. Honey, uh,
I'll call you back.
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