1. Adam...Copy !req
2. Um, I'm outside your school.Copy !req
3. Probably gonna have to come
into your class, all right?Copy !req
4. Promise I'll leave you alone.Copy !req
5. We could've sent someone more junior
here. You know that, don't ya?Copy !req
6. - Hello.
- Mrs. Fenumore?Copy !req
7. - Yes.
- I'm D.I. Bascombe.Copy !req
8. - Appreciate you doing this.
- Hi. D.S. Frank. Nice to meet you.Copy !req
9. Thanks so much for
coming. Um...Copy !req
10. We've only just let them all back in,
so, um, everyone might be a bit raw.Copy !req
11. Yeah, we know.Copy !req
12. We wouldn't be here if it
wasn't important. Okay?Copy !req
13. - Well, thanks for coming.
- Lead on.Copy !req
14. Um, I'll get you signed in.Copy !req
15. - Then I'll take you around.
- Thank you.Copy !req
16. - Hello.
- After you.Copy !req
17. Tommy. Tommy!Copy !req
18. Got a minute?Copy !req
19. - See you later.
- See you.Copy !req
20. The police are here.Copy !req
21. Of course they are.Copy !req
22. - They're everywhere.
- I don't like it.Copy !req
23. Yeah, same.Copy !req
24. You heard from him?Copy !req
25. Everyone's talking
about him. I texted him.Copy !req
26. Yeah.Copy !req
27. I didn't hear nothing. Did you?Copy !req
28. Well, you won't. It's not like
he's gonna have his phone on him.Copy !req
29. Do you think it's true?Copy !req
30. - Yeah.
- You think Jamie did it?Copy !req
31. - Yeah.
- They come to your house?Copy !req
32. - Yeah.
- They ask about the knife?Copy !req
33. - Yeah.
- What did you say?Copy !req
34. I... Dad said not to
talk to you about it.Copy !req
35. - Was he mad?
- Well, yeah. Of course. Weren't yours?Copy !req
36. No, they just... They
just didn't say nothing.Copy !req
37. - I don't want to be in trouble.
- You're not in trouble.Copy !req
38. - I don't want Jamie to be in trouble.
- Yeah.Copy !req
39. Well, he is.Copy !req
40. Dickhead.Copy !req
41. Adam,
um, I'm outside your school.Copy !req
42. Probably gonna have to come
into your class, all right?Copy !req
43. Promise I'll leave you alone.Copy !req
44. Adam.Copy !req
45. - Give me £1.20 now.
- Fredo.Copy !req
46. - Nah. Give me £1.20.
- I don't have money.Copy !req
47. - Give me £1.20 now.
- Fredo! Fredo, leave him alone.Copy !req
48. - I need £1.20, though, sir.
- No, you don't. You're on free dinners.Copy !req
49. Fourteen parents
I've had. Fourteen.Copy !req
50. "Is your school safe?"Copy !req
51. Oh God.
What do you say?Copy !req
52. I say the matter didn't even
happen on school property.Copy !req
53. Then they talk about security
guards and metal detectors.Copy !req
54. Mia Taylor told me we need
to open a grief support room.Copy !req
55. We're security guards and social
workers now, are we? Great.Copy !req
56. Well, I just worry about the impact
it's gonna have on the kids. It's a lot.Copy !req
57. - Just keep... keep an eye on it. Yeah?
- Okay.Copy !req
58. - Thanks.
- Uh, shirt, please.Copy !req
59. - And you, Sean. Come on.
- Sorry, miss.Copy !req
60. What the fuck's she on
about? Fucking hell.Copy !req
61. Come, let's go see what the
boys are saying. You know what?Copy !req
62. - I say we go fuck Jamie up.
- Nah, mate. No point.Copy !req
63. - Well, we break in, man.
- Break in? How are you gonna do that?Copy !req
64. - Shut up, man.
- Are you guys from Heywood Street?Copy !req
65. Yeah.Copy !req
66. Get inside!Copy !req
67. Hey, Jade.Copy !req
68. Do you wanna pop inside
the office for us?Copy !req
69. Okay?Copy !req
70. Thank you. Thanks.Copy !req
71. Take a seat.Copy !req
72. Thanks, love. Take a seat.Copy !req
73. - Go on. You go on that one.
- All right.Copy !req
74. - Here.
- Thank you.Copy !req
75. You're welcome. Here you go.Copy !req
76. Thanks.Copy !req
77. - Hi, Jade.
- Hiya.Copy !req
78. You all right?Copy !req
79. Look, I'm... I'm D.I.
Bascombe. This is D.S. Frank.Copy !req
80. And this is Mrs. Fenumore.
She's from the school.Copy !req
81. She's gonna keep an eye on things
from the school's perspective,Copy !req
82. give you any support you
may want or need, okay?Copy !req
83. I teach at the lower
school, Jade. Okay?Copy !req
84. Uh, Jade, we are, um...Copy !req
85. We're really grateful that
you agreed to talk to us.Copy !req
86. I agreed, did I?Copy !req
87. And I thought I just
got pulled off lunch.Copy !req
88. Okay, well, we did try
to get you at home,Copy !req
89. but your mum wasn't sure what
time you'd be back, so...Copy !req
90. - Look, if you don't mind, we wanted to...
- I don't mind.Copy !req
91. I'm the lead investigator
on Katie's case.Copy !req
92. I wanted to give you my card.Copy !req
93. Has the station
number on the frontCopy !req
94. and also a crime reference
number on the back.Copy !req
95. This is to help you keep upCopy !req
96. with the progress of
Katie's case, all right?Copy !req
97. - You can take that.
- Wow.Copy !req
98. It's a bit flash,
don't you think?Copy !req
99. Okay.Copy !req
100. Look, uh, we can tell you that we have
arrested, uh, one suspect, all right...Copy !req
101. Yeah, Jamie.Copy !req
102. But we need some
more information.Copy !req
103. Both on the murder weapon,
which we don't yet have,Copy !req
104. and why the suspect did it.Copy !req
105. Jade, you were good friends with
Katie. That's right, isn't it?Copy !req
106. Her best friend.Copy !req
107. Ask anyone.Copy !req
108. Can you tell us about her?Copy !req
109. Ain't you got
a kid in the school?Copy !req
110. Yeah. Yeah.Copy !req
111. Adam, right?Copy !req
112. - Yeah.
- He's off, if you didn't know.Copy !req
113. He didn't get your cheekbones.Copy !req
114. - I don't see what that has to do...
- Can you tell me about him?Copy !req
115. Listen.Copy !req
116. All you need to know is
she's dead.Copy !req
117. She shouldn't be.
'Cause she got stabbed.Copy !req
118. She was the best person
I knew. That's it.Copy !req
119. Uh, Jade,
was Katie happy?Copy !req
120. Well, she didn't stab herself.Copy !req
121. What was her
relationship with boys like?Copy !req
122. You mean with Jamie? She
wouldn't go anywhere near him.Copy !req
123. - Really?
- Yeah.Copy !req
124. Interesting. Are you
saying that she didn't like him?Copy !req
125. Because we've got Instagram posts from
her that suggest that they were friends.Copy !req
126. - So, you're trying to blame this on her?
- No.Copy !req
127. Well, you've got
video. Everyone knows.Copy !req
128. You should be sorting out
the guy that killed her.Copy !req
129. - We're not asking you to talk...
- You are!Copy !req
130. - You are! I can hear it in all of ya.
- No, Jade. Jade.Copy !req
131. - Can I go?
- A bit of politeness.Copy !req
132. Well, I ain't feeling polite today.
Can I go now, Miss Lower School?Copy !req
133. Mrs. Fenumore, it's fine. It's
okay. You can go, Jade. Thank you.Copy !req
134. Fucking useless.Copy !req
135. You guys are meant to
be best of the police?Copy !req
136. Jade.Copy !req
137. I'm so sorry.
She's very upset.Copy !req
138. - Shall we crack on?
- Shall we?Copy !req
139. - Yeah?
- Yeah, let's go.Copy !req
140. - Okay.
- Sorry about that.Copy !req
141. It's okay.Copy !req
142. Um, all right. We'll
start you in 8G.Copy !req
143. - That's Jamie's class.
- Yeah, we know.Copy !req
144. And you've spoken to some of
the boys. Uh, Ryan and Tommy?Copy !req
145. Does everyone know everything
about this case? Huh?Copy !req
146. Well, I think people are gonna know
more than you think all day, so...Copy !req
147. Oh, I get it, but they shouldn't.
It doesn't matter. Let's go.Copy !req
148. Guys! Stop it. Sit...Copy !req
149. Hey, everybody, sit down!Copy !req
150. James! Put the
phones away, please!Copy !req
151. - Where's. Mr. Malik?
- He's late. Don't grass on him.Copy !req
152. - Right. Detective Bascombe.
- Hi.Copy !req
153. He's got something he wants
to talk to you all about.Copy !req
154. All right, guys. Look, as
many of you may know, right...Copy !req
155. Oh, I'm so sorry. Uh,
Detective Sergeant Frank?Copy !req
156. - Frank. It's fine.
- I'm sorry. Apologies.Copy !req
157. It's okay. As many of you may
know, there was a tragic incidentCopy !req
158. that took place the
night before last, okay?Copy !req
159. It involved a fatality among
one of your schoolmates.Copy !req
160. - Did Jamie do it?
- Listen to the man.Copy !req
161. Oh, shit, he did!Copy !req
162. - Stop swearing, please!
- Look, calm down. We have made one arrest.Copy !req
163. But we are here todayCopy !req
164. because we still haven't
found the murder weapon.Copy !req
165. All right? I know that sounds
very serious and scary,Copy !req
166. but you guys may have some
information that we need.Copy !req
167. So we're just asking, please come to us
and talk to us if you need to, all right?Copy !req
168. - Is it true you've got a video?
- Please.Copy !req
169. Any other situations, any other
issues connected to this case,Copy !req
170. you can also come and talk to...Copy !req
171. Mr. Malik, we protected you.Copy !req
172. Sorry I'm late. You must
be the police, yeah?Copy !req
173. "You must be the police!"
I love you, Mr. Malik!Copy !req
174. Mr. Malik.Copy !req
175. I'm gonna give Mr. Malik my card. It
has the police station number on it.Copy !req
176. If you wanna talk, you've got information,
go to Mr. Malik. He'll come to us. Right?Copy !req
177. - Thank you. Take care.
- Thank you.Copy !req
178. Thank you very much. Wait.Copy !req
179. Yeah, we're getting back
to the film now, uh, so...Copy !req
180. Uh, Marie, you wanna
get your pen out?Copy !req
181. I ain't got a pen, sir.Copy !req
182. Why do schools have
that same smell?Copy !req
183. It's like a mixture of vomit,
cabbage, and masturbation.Copy !req
184. It's horrible.Copy !req
185. Yeah, sure.Copy !req
186. Do you really think we're
gonna find a knife here?Copy !req
187. Uh, we may have enough. We may.Copy !req
188. But if we don't find that knife, he's
got a bargaining chip, hasn't he?Copy !req
189. You know how it goes. And we saw
him walk past the school on CCTV.Copy !req
190. - It was dark, I know...
- Yeah, I get it.Copy !req
191. And I don't have a motive.Copy !req
192. I know you need a motive.Copy !req
193. I just honestly don't understand
why that Jade girl was so angry.Copy !req
194. She's upset, mate. They're
all gonna be very upset.Copy !req
195. I know. I get that. I'm just saying she
made it seem like Katie hated Jamie.Copy !req
196. I'm so sorry about that.
Mr. Malik's newly qualified.Copy !req
197. - It's all good. Thank you.
- Shall we carry on?Copy !req
198. Let's go.Copy !req
199. I did send a note around telling
everybody that you was coming.Copy !req
200. What do you wanna do? You
wanna go to isolation?Copy !req
201. Because I can send you to
isolation. No problem whatsoever.Copy !req
202. There's no phones
allowed in class at all!Copy !req
203. All the teachers are really upset
by this too, as you can see.Copy !req
204. Um, I just... Everyone's
just devastated.Copy !req
205. I taught
Katie in year five.Copy !req
206. She was so bright.Copy !req
207. Just such a beautiful
little girl.Copy !req
208. You know, she talked a
little bit too much, butCopy !req
209. I really thought she was gonna
do something with her life.Copy !req
210. Yeah. It's a horrible shock
for everybody, isn't it?Copy !req
211. Yeah.
It's devastating.Copy !req
212. Okay, um, follow me.
We'll... carry on.Copy !req
213. Hello.Copy !req
214. - I've got no idea.
- You all right?Copy !req
215. Look, keep an eye out for any of the kids
that react funny when we're in the class.Copy !req
216. - We'll chase 'em up after school, yeah?
- Yeah.Copy !req
217. Good.Copy !req
218. Um, and just to say, I can supply you
with any names you like or addresses too.Copy !req
219. Okay, Mrs. Fenumore. That
would be useful, all right?Copy !req
220. - That's all I want to be. Useful.
- Can we go to 10G?Copy !req
221. Yes, of course, uh, Mr. Curtis.Copy !req
222. Right, that
is it! Not another word!Copy !req
223. - Put your pens down!
- Fucking hell.Copy !req
224. Put your hands
down and watch the video.Copy !req
225. Mr. Curtis, would
it be all right if we come in?Copy !req
226. - The police would like to talk.
- Mr. Curtis.Copy !req
227. - You all right?
- You all right?Copy !req
228. - Hi. D.S. Frank.
- You all right?Copy !req
229. - Everything okay?
- Yeah. Want a quick word with the kids.Copy !req
230. Okay, so this is D.I.
Bascombe and D.S. FrankCopy !req
231. from Heywood Street
Police Station.Copy !req
232. They'd like to talk about
what happened to Katie.Copy !req
233. Now, they're here because
they care about this school.Copy !req
234. And, as many of you know, D.I.
Bascombe is also Adam's dad.Copy !req
235. Adam.Copy !req
236. All right, that's enough.Copy !req
237. I said stop that, Fredo. I said stop!Copy !req
238. See me after class. I'm
sorry. That's unacceptable.Copy !req
239. - It's all right.
- Have some respect.Copy !req
240. Uh, guys, I don't wanna
keep you long, all right?Copy !req
241. You know there was a terrible crime
that was committed in our townCopy !req
242. the night before last.Copy !req
243. And we're just here trying
to understand what...Copy !req
244. You've gotta be kidding. I'm sorry.Copy !req
245. - Okay, make an orderly line.
- I'm so sorry about this.Copy !req
246. There's no smoke.Copy !req
247. You're supposed to
be filing out of the school.Copy !req
248. Try and stay in straight lines.Copy !req
249. - Sir, you think it's terrorism?
- No, Billie, it isn't terrorism.Copy !req
250. No running. Stay in lines!Copy !req
251. All right, straight down to the
tennis courts. No messing about.Copy !req
252. No time to grab your things.
Straight down. No messing.Copy !req
253. Thank you.Copy !req
254. It'll be a false alarm.Copy !req
255. Although, someone
did throw a set of fireworksCopy !req
256. into the computer lab last year.Copy !req
257. We had a fire. Um...Copy !req
258. - Crowthers were selling ten for a quid.
- Not very helpful.Copy !req
259. It wasn't very good, no. Uh, but
we managed to contain it, so...Copy !req
260. Did you guys come?
The police were here.Copy !req
261. - No, it wasn't us.
- No? They were very helpful.Copy !req
262. All right, we'll make our way
to the tennis courts. Follow me.Copy !req
263. - Hurry up!
- Thank you.Copy !req
264. Hurry. Quickly.Copy !req
265. - Keep moving.
- Keep moving.Copy !req
266. - Thanks so much.
- Keep it moving.Copy !req
267. - So where are we going?
- In the tennis courts. Okay?Copy !req
268. Mr. Malik,
can I have a word?Copy !req
269. Yeah.Copy !req
270. - I've been reading your school reports.
- Yeah.Copy !req
271. Jamie was a good student, yeah?Copy !req
272. - Are we allowed to talk out here?
- Yeah. Yeah.Copy !req
273. I wanna know, was there
any signs of unhappiness?Copy !req
274. - I'm... I'm just a tutor. I mean...
- Well, you're a teacher.Copy !req
275. Yeah, but I teach history. I don't
see him, you know? I don't...Copy !req
276. I don't...Copy !req
277. I don't...
I wouldn't know, you know? I...Copy !req
278. Look, these kids are fucking impossible.
I mean, what am I supposed to do?Copy !req
279. Right, 9G!
In your line, let's go!Copy !req
280. You know exactly. Not
messing. Get in your lines.Copy !req
281. Can you
please keep in line?Copy !req
282. Oi!Copy !req
283. Ryan! What have you done?Copy !req
284. You fucking bastard! You killed
my friend! You killed my friend!Copy !req
285. You fucking... fucking...Copy !req
286. - Fucking hell!
- Jade! Jade!Copy !req
287. Fucking... He killed my friend!Copy !req
288. - No, he didn't!
- The fucking freak! Get off me, miss!Copy !req
289. - Come on, calm down. Let it go.
- Get off me!Copy !req
290. That fucking freak killed my
friend! You fucking murderer!Copy !req
291. - Take her to Mrs. Bailey!
- Okay. Okay, sit up.Copy !req
292. Slowly. That's it.Copy !req
293. I'm gonna take him to the
room. Have you hurt your head?Copy !req
294. Ryan, did you... did
you land on your head?Copy !req
295. - Yeah.
- Okay.Copy !req
296. You just got banged by
a girl, you sausage.Copy !req
297. Shut it, you.Copy !req
298. This is the last time! In your
lines! Now! You! In your line.Copy !req
299. - Did you land funny?
- Yes.Copy !req
300. I don't care! In your lines!
Now! And phones away.Copy !req
301. - Girls, seriously. Back in your lines.
- Let's take you back to 10G.Copy !req
302. No. We... we wanna talk to Ryan.Copy !req
303. - Let's talk to Ryan.
- He'll be with the nurse now...Copy !req
304. That's fine.
We'll go up there.Copy !req
305. - It's all good. Yeah?
- Okay. I hope he's all right.Copy !req
306. It's absolute chaos.Copy !req
307. Thank you.Copy !req
308. Inside, you're on TikTok
Hating a teenagerCopy !req
309. Thirteen, making
my own paperCopy !req
310. Put that phone away and
get back to class now!Copy !req
311. - Shut up, Miss.
- Excuse me?Copy !req
312. God's sake.Copy !req
313. I said keep going, please.
Up the stairs. Let's go.Copy !req
314. - Are you sure it's not on fire?
- No, it's not. Get to class. Thank you.Copy !req
315. Okay, guys,
keep it moving, please.Copy !req
316. Keep it moving.
Thank you.Copy !req
317. That's it.
Straight back to classrooms.Copy !req
318. - As quick as you can.
- Meet me upstairs.Copy !req
319. It's all right, girls.Copy !req
320. Thank you.Copy !req
321. Okay, well done.
Get back to class. Well done.Copy !req
322. All right, here we are.Copy !req
323. Hi, Carla. Can we come in, please?
The police would like to talk to Ryan.Copy !req
324. Right, yeah.
Uh, I'm just gonna check this.Copy !req
325. Okay, look at me.
Look at my nose.Copy !req
326. Okay, well, that looks all
right. But you did land on it.Copy !req
327. Hey, miss. Uh, do you
mind if I have a word with Ryan?Copy !req
328. - Is that all right with you, Ryan?
- Yeah.Copy !req
329. - Okay.
- All right?Copy !req
330. - Yeah, of course.
- Thank you.Copy !req
331. - Do you mind if I sit down, mate?
- Yeah.Copy !req
332. - All good.
- Am I all right here, Ryan?Copy !req
333. - Yeah.
- Yeah.Copy !req
334. Thank you.Copy !req
335. That was, uh...Copy !req
336. It was a bit mad, weren't it?Copy !req
337. - Yeah.
- I think you're gonna have a black eye.Copy !req
338. - Yeah, hopefully not.
- Yeah.Copy !req
339. Well, when I was, uh... when
I was around your age, I...Copy !req
340. I ran into a bus shelter
because I wanted a black eye.Copy !req
341. - What?
- I know. It's crazy.Copy !req
342. Don't ask.Copy !req
343. I was probably a bit younger
than you. Maybe about nine.Copy !req
344. Mm.Copy !req
345. Did it work?Copy !req
346. Well, I wanted to
look like a cowboy.Copy !req
347. In the end, I ended up losing a
tooth and looking like a, uh...Copy !req
348. Yeah, I can't say. But it hurt.Copy !req
349. Mm.Copy !req
350. It's crazy, you know, what your brain
tells you to do when you're a kid, right?Copy !req
351. - Yeah, you were popular in school, though.
- What makes you say that?Copy !req
352. I just know. You were.Copy !req
353. Well, I was, once I got rid
of the big Afro that I had.Copy !req
354. My mum wouldn't let
me cut my hair for ages, so...Copy !req
355. Once I got it cut, I got a
fade, things were different.Copy !req
356. Yeah.Copy !req
357. Is popularity
important to you, Ryan?Copy !req
358. - Of course.
- Yeah?Copy !req
359. - Yeah.
- When we spoke to you last...Copy !req
360. - Tommy said you spoke to him and all.
- Yeah.Copy !req
361. His, uh... his dad won't
let him say nothing.Copy !req
362. That's true. It's
not entirely right, but...Copy !req
363. I mean, would you like to haveCopy !req
364. your guardian here or
solicitor here, Ryan?Copy !req
365. - No, thank you.
- Okay.Copy !req
366. Were you, like, really popular?Copy !req
367. - Yeah.
- With girls and stuff?Copy !req
368. I did okay.Copy !req
369. Um, doesn't look like you
knocked out any teeth.Copy !req
370. - You don't believe me, no?
- Mm.Copy !req
371. I'll show you.
Look. See that one there?Copy !req
372. - Oh, yeah.
- Yeah.Copy !req
373. - Is that a cap or a filling?
- Filling.Copy !req
374. Mm. I got all me teeth.Copy !req
375. - Brush 'em dead careful.
- Okay.Copy !req
376. I don't know why they matter so
much, but... ... they do.Copy !req
377. Yeah.Copy !req
378. Look, mate, we, uh...Copy !req
379. We're getting clearer on the
geography of that night, you know?Copy !req
380. But there's still three things
that we feel you can help us with.Copy !req
381. Okay, Carla, um, is it all right
if I go now, because I'm...Copy !req
382. It's better if you stay
a little bit longer. Okay?Copy !req
383. Okay.Copy !req
384. Sorry, what was you saying?Copy !req
385. Look, uh, what...Copy !req
386. We wanna know what
Jamie intended.Copy !req
387. And what motiv...Copy !req
388. Do you know what I mean
by "motivated"? Yeah?Copy !req
389. Yeah. And "intended."Copy !req
390. Good. All right. So what
motivated him to do...Copy !req
391. Why he did what he did, right? We think
you can help with that. And, um...Copy !req
392. You know, like, for instance, on
the night, was he happy or sad?Copy !req
393. I don't know. Normal.Copy !req
394. Okay. Well,
what did you talk about?Copy !req
395. Nothing, really. Just hung out.Copy !req
396. This is gonna be... seem
like a really silly question to you.Copy !req
397. But, look...Copy !req
398. Did Jamie ever talk to
you about his feelings?Copy !req
399. Like, how he was feeling?Copy !req
400. Yeah, nah.Copy !req
401. - No?
- No.Copy !req
402. Can we talk about Katie?Copy !req
403. I don't really know
anything about her, so...Copy !req
404. Can we talk about what
Jamie said about Katie?Copy !req
405. I didn't... I didn't know anything
about what he was gonna do.Copy !req
406. All right.Copy !req
407. Would you describe Katie and
Jamie as friends? Would you?Copy !req
408. I don't think so.
Not really. Um...Copy !req
409. Like I say, I didn't
really get to know her.Copy !req
410. Anyway, can I go now?
Because I'm fine.Copy !req
411. - Ryan.
- Wait.Copy !req
412. We're not finished. I've got one question,
and this is a really important one, right?Copy !req
413. We still haven't found the
knife that Jamie used...Copy !req
414. Yeah, cool, but I need to go now.
They said they'd keep me back.Copy !req
415. - They won't, Ryan. Just, please...
- Please. I need to get back.Copy !req
416. You've hit your head, so
can you come back in? Ryan!Copy !req
417. - I don't want water.
- Mrs. Bailey?Copy !req
418. - Yes.
- Her mum's been called.Copy !req
419. Thank you.Copy !req
420. - Are you serious?
- Your mum needs to be told.Copy !req
421. She'll be mad at me 'cause
she'll have to get out of work.Copy !req
422. What...Copy !req
423. How are you two? Are you...
Are you getting on better now?Copy !req
424. It's okay, yeah.Copy !req
425. I did say it might not be best
to come in today, didn't I, love?Copy !req
426. Where do you want me going?Copy !req
427. Mum doesn't like me in her
house without her there.Copy !req
428. I'm not walking around places...Copy !req
429. I'm not walking around
places... Katie's been, so...Copy !req
430. You know, I... I'd
go to her house.Copy !req
431. - That's where I'd go if I wasn't here.
- Go to her house, then.Copy !req
432. No.Copy !req
433. Listen, go to her house. I'm sure
her parents would love to see ya.Copy !req
434. No, trust me. Trust
me, they wouldn't.Copy !req
435. - Miss?
- Yes?Copy !req
436. Am I in trouble?Copy !req
437. Oh God.Copy !req
438. Sit down.Copy !req
439. Come on. Sit down, please.Copy !req
440. You know you're in trouble.Copy !req
441. Will the police come by the
house because I don't...Copy !req
442. I don't know. That
depends what Ryan decides.Copy !req
443. - But he's only a little boy.
- So, then why did you do it?Copy !req
444. I don't know.Copy !req
445. I know you're hurt
and you're upset,Copy !req
446. but you don't know Ryan's got anything
to do with what happened to Katie.Copy !req
447. Talk to me. Come on.Copy !req
448. She was my best friend, miss.Copy !req
449. She was the only
one who actually...Copy !req
450. She was the only
one who actually thought I was okay.Copy !req
451. I don't know what to do anymore.Copy !req
452. I don't know what to do anymore 'cause...
it's not like I have anyone else now.Copy !req
453. - Yes. Yes, you do.
- No, I don't.Copy !req
454. Yes, you do, love.
You've got lots of people.Copy !req
455. - No, I don't. You're only saying that.
- I'm not. But this...Copy !req
456. Jade, this is a huge loss, love.Copy !req
457. So we'll arrange for somebody
for you to have a chat to.Copy !req
458. - Not another shrink.
- It's not a shrink.Copy !req
459. - No, fuck that.
- Somebody for you to talk to. Please.Copy !req
460. - Are you serious?
- No, you can't go back to class.Copy !req
461. You know you can't.Copy !req
462. - Every fucking time.
- Come on, Jade, darling. Stay with me.Copy !req
463. - You've got to stay with me.
- Leave me alone, miss.Copy !req
464. Please!Copy !req
465. Jade, come on, love.
Please.Copy !req
466. Only Paraguay is different
on the reverse side.Copy !req
467. Saudi Arabia is exactly
the same on both sides.Copy !req
468. It may not seem big,Copy !req
469. but any little piece of information
you've got... we would love.Copy !req
470. Okay. All right.Copy !req
471. Thank you for your time.Copy !req
472. - You all right?
- Yeah.Copy !req
473. Come here.Copy !req
474. - You okay?
- Yeah.Copy !req
475. Why are you not in class? Hmm?Copy !req
476. Can I... talk to you?Copy !req
477. In... private. Please.Copy !req
478. Okay.Copy !req
479. - Uh, Mrs. Fenumore.
- Yes.Copy !req
480. Do you have a, uh... a
free class, private room?Copy !req
481. Just a place I can have a
word with Adam privately?Copy !req
482. - Um... Private... Yes.
- Yeah?Copy !req
483. Uh, follow me down here.Copy !req
484. Okay, thank you.
Come on.Copy !req
485. There.Copy !req
486. Is this all right?Copy !req
487. In there. Go on.Copy !req
488. Do you, um, want me to
come in with you, or...Copy !req
489. - No, it's all right.
- Is he all right?Copy !req
490. - I haven't got a clue.
- I'll wait outside for ya.Copy !req
491. - Take your time.
- Yeah.Copy !req
492. - Thank you, Mrs. Fenumore.
- Everything all right? Okay.Copy !req
493. What's up? You all right?Copy !req
494. Is this about that guy in your
class? That Fredo guy? Huh?Copy !req
495. No. Um...Copy !req
496. - What's up?
- Sit down.Copy !req
497. Adam, you're freaking me
out. What's going on? Hmm?Copy !req
498. Just, um...Copy !req
499. Is this...Copy !req
500. You said you wanted to talk to people...
who might be able to help you understand.Copy !req
501. And you can help me understand?
Yeah? That's what you're saying?Copy !req
502. - Adam, is this...
- You wanna go.Copy !req
503. - I don't wanna go.
- You wanna go to the gym or work.Copy !req
504. - The door's right there. Just leave, Dad.
- I'm here. What...?Copy !req
505. Have you got information about that?
Do you know where that knife is?Copy !req
506. Has someone said something?Copy !req
507. Because, listen, I've
got sniffer dogs,Copy !req
508. people down drains,
and all sorts of stuff.Copy !req
509. Dad.Copy !req
510. It's not going well 'cause
you're not getting it.Copy !req
511. What am I not getting?Copy !req
512. You're not reading what they're
doing. What's happening.Copy !req
513. What are you talking about?Copy !req
514. Insta. You've been
looking at Insta, right?Copy !req
515. Yeah.Copy !req
516. Uh, okay. So you've, um...Copy !req
517. You've seen... what she wrote?Copy !req
518. I have.Copy !req
519. - Okay.
- Looks like she's being nice, right?Copy !req
520. Isn't she? Hmm?Copy !req
521. The dynamite. What do
you think that means?Copy !req
522. Uh, I don't know.Copy !req
523. An exploding red pill. The blue pills mean
you see the world as it wants you to...Copy !req
524. That's when the Matrix...
You've been watching The Matrix?Copy !req
525. What?Copy !req
526. - Don't worry. Yeah. Don't worry, carry on.
- The Matrix.Copy !req
527. Carry on.Copy !req
528. Um...Copy !req
529. The red pill's like,
"I see the truth."Copy !req
530. It's a call to action
by the manosphere.Copy !req
531. "Manosphere"?Copy !req
532. Which is where the 100
comes in. The 80 to 20 rule.Copy !req
533. Adam, Adam. Listen.Copy !req
534. My brain can't take all this.Copy !req
535. I don't know what you're talking
about. Just break it down.Copy !req
536. 80% of women are
attracted to 20% of men.Copy !req
537. Women. You must trick themCopy !req
538. 'cause you'll never get
them in a normal way.Copy !req
539. 80% of women are cut off or...Copy !req
540. Or she's saying
he's an incel, Dad.Copy !req
541. He's 13. How can you be
involuntarily celibate at 13?Copy !req
542. - Dad, I know...
- Who isn't celibate at 13? Huh?Copy !req
543. She's saying he always
will be. "You're an incel."Copy !req
544. You're gonna be, I don't
know, a virgin forever, basically.Copy !req
545. And all those people have hearted,
which means they're agreeing with her.Copy !req
546. Okay. So this is...Copy !req
547. This is bullying?Copy !req
548. I mean, it's... it's a bit
of a stretch, Ad, but...Copy !req
549. - You don't believe me, Dad.
- I'm not saying I don't believe you.Copy !req
550. Where are you going? Hey,
stop. What are you doing?Copy !req
551. This is useful.Copy !req
552. I... I... I didn't know.Copy !req
553. It's just hard to believe,
like, all that from two symbols.Copy !req
554. You text hearts, right? To Mum?Copy !req
555. - When I don't know what to reply, yeah.
- What color?Copy !req
556. - Red.
- Means love.Copy !req
557. Purple, horny. Yellow, I'm
interested. Are you interested?Copy !req
558. Pink, I'm interested,
but not in sex.Copy !req
559. Orange, you're gonna be fine.
It all has a meaning, Dad.Copy !req
560. Everything has a meaning.Copy !req
561. Well, it's...Copy !req
562. It's a good thing I only
text Mum red, then, innit?Copy !req
563. Okay.Copy !req
564. I could, um, show you 15
others. Messages sent to Jamie.Copy !req
565. All different emojis. They're
saying the same thing.Copy !req
566. Look...Copy !req
567. are you saying...Copy !req
568. that Katie is leading
this incel stuff?Copy !req
569. Is that what it is? Yeah, like
she's bullying Jamie? Yeah?Copy !req
570. Dad. I... I don't know,
Dad. I... I don't know them.Copy !req
571. They're two years below me.Copy !req
572. This is... This is just what I'm
seeing on his Insta, you know?Copy !req
573. Okay. Okay.Copy !req
574. Look, I... I can't tell you what
he did. You know that, right?Copy !req
575. We all know what he did, Dad.Copy !req
576. I just thought you
needed to know.Copy !req
577. It was just embarrassing
watching you blunder about.Copy !req
578. I'm sorry.Copy !req
579. Don't be.Copy !req
580. I have been blundering,
to be fair.Copy !req
581. Look...Copy !req
582. Does any of this Instagram
stuff affect you? Hmm?Copy !req
583. - It's not about me.
- I know.Copy !req
584. But does it, son?Copy !req
585. You don't call me "son."Copy !req
586. You call other people "son."
You never call me "son."Copy !req
587. Okay. I'm sorry.Copy !req
588. No.Copy !req
589. I'm on Insta, but I don't post.Copy !req
590. - And you're okay, yeah?
- Yeah, I'm fine.Copy !req
591. - Okay. Listen.
- Yeah.Copy !req
592. Um...Copy !req
593. - Thank you. Yeah?
- Yeah.Copy !req
594. - I appreciate it.
- Yeah. Um...Copy !req
595. All right.Copy !req
596. I should, um... get back
to the last bit of class.Copy !req
597. Okay. You go.Copy !req
598. Hey, thank y...Copy !req
599. They pick everything up.Copy !req
600. You all right?Copy !req
601. Yeah. Um...Copy !req
602. We were wrong about
all that Instagram stuff.Copy !req
603. - What do you mean?
- Katie was bullying Jamie.Copy !req
604. - Oh no.
- That's what it was.Copy !req
605. Incel stuff. You
know what that is.Copy !req
606. Yeah, I do.Copy !req
607. No, I don't know what
that is. What is it?Copy !req
608. It's the, um, involuntary celibate
stuff. It's the Andrew Tate shite.Copy !req
609. - Hmm.
- Oh.Copy !req
610. - Fucking hell.
- I've heard the boys talking about him.Copy !req
611. Yeah. Uh, look, Mrs. Fenumore,
thank you so much.Copy !req
612. - You can go now. We've...
- Thank you.Copy !req
613. - Thank you very much. Nice to meet you.
- Sure? I can take you...Copy !req
614. Are you sure you don't want
to go or need to go somewhere?Copy !req
615. No, we're all good.
Thank you very much.Copy !req
616. Well, it's good to be useful, and I'll
be in the office if you need anything.Copy !req
617. But I just want to
say thank you so much.Copy !req
618. We really appreciate everything
you've... you've done.Copy !req
619. - Thank you.
- No worries. Thank you.Copy !req
620. - Thank you.
- Bye.Copy !req
621. - Bye-bye.
- Bye.Copy !req
622. Fucking hell.Copy !req
623. Yeah, fucking hell.Copy !req
624. Hmm.Copy !req
625. Do you know what? I honestly...
I just can't stand this fucking place.Copy !req
626. - You wanted to come, mate.
- Yeah, I know, but...Copy !req
627. Does it look like anyone's learning
anything in there to you? Hmm?Copy !req
628. It just looks like
a fucking holding pen.Copy !req
629. Videos in every class.Copy !req
630. Mr. Malik just walking
in and out when he wants.Copy !req
631. - And you said it fucking smells.
- It does fucking stink.Copy !req
632. All schools stink.Copy !req
633. Just come here. Just
have a minute here.Copy !req
634. Just get our head round this.Copy !req
635. There'll be some good teachers
in here and some good students.Copy !req
636. - My school was a bit like this.
- Well, how did you survive, then?Copy !req
637. 'Cause I had a good teacher. I had
Mrs. Benton, who was fucking class.Copy !req
638. She taught, um, art and photography.Copy !req
639. I liked drawing
pictures and stuff.Copy !req
640. Mm. Nice.Copy !req
641. All kids really need is one thing that
makes them feel okay about themselves.Copy !req
642. You want kids?Copy !req
643. - You have never asked me that before.
- I know. I'm just...Copy !req
644. It's not something you
ask your colleague.Copy !req
645. Well, you can ask your mates,
can't you? And no. No, not really.Copy !req
646. - I never wanted 'em.
- No?Copy !req
647. Mm.Copy !req
648. But I do love him very much.Copy !req
649. Is he all right?Copy !req
650. I mean, that is the longest he's
spoken to me in a while, so...Copy !req
651. Surely that's a good thing, no?Copy !req
652. Yeah, but... Look,
I... I just...Copy !req
653. Sometimes I don't think I'm
the right fit for him as a dad.Copy !req
654. You know what I mean?Copy !req
655. Well, I know you. And I know you
can be. Do you know what I mean?Copy !req
656. Yeah.Copy !req
657. All right. Look...Copy !req
658. - We haven't got the knife.
- No.Copy !req
659. But, um...Copy !req
660. I think back to the station. Do you?
Yeah. We've got what we need anyway now.Copy !req
661. - Mish.
- What?Copy !req
662. You've hated being here,
yeah? I get it. What's up?Copy !req
663. It's not even that, you know?Copy !req
664. - Do you know what I don't like about this?
- Go on.Copy !req
665. Right, the perpetrator
always gets the front line.Copy !req
666. "A man raped a woman."Copy !req
667. We've followed
Jamie's brain around this entire case.Copy !req
668. - Hmm. Yeah.
- Right? Katie isn't important. Jamie is.Copy !req
669. Everyone will remember Jamie.
No one will remember her.Copy !req
670. That's what annoys me.
That's what gets to me.Copy !req
671. I think you're wrong. I
think we're here for Katie.Copy !req
672. We're here for her parents.
We're here to get answers.Copy !req
673. It's our job to understand why.Copy !req
674. You can't understand why. Do
you actually think you can?Copy !req
675. We've got the video.
We know what he did.Copy !req
676. You're not gonna know why.
Look at the things we've seen.Copy !req
677. You are not gonna know
why. You just won't.Copy !req
678. Okay, Mish, look. Go
back to the station.Copy !req
679. - I'm gonna talk to Ryan one last time.
- But you've spoken to Ryan.Copy !req
680. I know, but he's... he's
not saying something.Copy !req
681. I know there's more.Copy !req
682. - You coming or not?
- Fuck's sake.Copy !req
683. - Mr. Malik.
- Oh, for fuck's sake.Copy !req
684. How can I help?Copy !req
685. - I need to have a word with Ryan.
- Sir, at least stop the tape.Copy !req
686. It's a good bit.Copy !req
687. - One second. Ryan. Come on.
- Ryan.Copy !req
688. - Holy shit! Holy shit!
- Whoa!Copy !req
689. Come here! Ryan!Copy !req
690. Stop running. Stop, mate.Copy !req
691. Ryan!Copy !req
692. Hey, hey, hey!Copy !req
693. Ryan!Copy !req
694. Stop!Copy !req
695. Hey! Come here!Copy !req
696. Come here!Copy !req
697. Ryan!Copy !req
698. Don't. Don't you dare.Copy !req
699. Fuck.Copy !req
700. Hey!Copy !req
701. Come here!Copy !req
702. Fuck.Copy !req
703. - Move!
- Hey!Copy !req
704. Ryan. Ryan.Copy !req
705. Mind the road! Mind the road!Copy !req
706. Hey. Where are you going?
Stop running!Copy !req
707. Get the fuck down.
What the fuck are you doing?Copy !req
708. Come here. Come here.Copy !req
709. - What does "incel" mean to you?
- What?Copy !req
710. Incel. Katie called Jamie
an incel. What does it mean?Copy !req
711. - Who did you get that off?
- Was she bullying him?Copy !req
712. - Why are you always talking to me?
- What do you mean?Copy !req
713. - Tommy! Talk to him.
- Fuck Tommy!Copy !req
714. What's he got to do with
anything? You know Jamie!Copy !req
715. - He knows Jamie.
- No, he doesn't! Not like you.Copy !req
716. Listen. I'm gonna ask you one question.
I want a fucking serious answer.Copy !req
717. - Do you understand?
- All right. Yes!Copy !req
718. - Did you help him get that knife?
- No, man.Copy !req
719. Ryan, do not play with
me. Did you help him?Copy !req
720. - No.
- Hey!Copy !req
721. There's a dead
fucking girl! Right?Copy !req
722. - All right. Right.
- Answer the question. Talk.Copy !req
723. Right.Copy !req
724. It was... It was my knife.Copy !req
725. - I just want things the way they were.
- Fucking hell.Copy !req
726. - I thought he'd just scare her.
- Where is it?Copy !req
727. I don't know.Copy !req
728. - Where the fuck is it?
- I don't know!Copy !req
729. - All right. You're coming with me.
- What?Copy !req
730. - That's it. You're under arrest. Stop!
- Get off!Copy !req
731. Ryan Kowalska, I am arresting
you on suspicion of conspiracy to murder.Copy !req
732. You do not have to say anything,
but it may harm your defenseCopy !req
733. if you do not mention when questioned
something you later rely on in court,Copy !req
734. anything you do say may
be given in evidence.Copy !req
735. Get off me!Copy !req
736. Please, I don't wanna go!Copy !req
737. - Get off!
- Fucking hell.Copy !req
738. I haven't run like that in years.Copy !req
739. Get off!Copy !req
740. Fuck.Copy !req
741. - You good with this? Yeah?
- Yep.Copy !req
742. Just, uh, book him in. Notify
anyone that needs to know.Copy !req
743. Yep. Will do.Copy !req
744. And, yeah. Charge Jamie.Copy !req
745. Without you?Copy !req
746. Yeah. We've got everything
that we need now. All right?Copy !req
747. Yeah.Copy !req
748. Are you all right?Copy !req
749. Yeah, I'm good. Um...Copy !req
750. There's something...
something I want to sort out.Copy !req
751. - Sure you're all right?
- I'm good. See you in a bit.Copy !req
752. Yeah, all right. See you there.Copy !req
753. Fuck.Copy !req
754. Oh God.Copy !req
755. Adam!Copy !req
756. You all right?Copy !req
757. - What's up? Come here.
- I don't want a lift. I'll take the bus.Copy !req
758. No, no, no. I'm not... I'm
not offering you a lift.Copy !req
759. Come. Come... here.Copy !req
760. Look, uh...Copy !req
761. I'm hungry.Copy !req
762. All right? And,
uh, I was gonna...Copy !req
763. I was gonna get some chips and a Coke.
I wanted to know if you wanted to come.Copy !req
764. - You've got your case.
- Yes, I know I've got my case.Copy !req
765. All right? It's nearly done
now. I'm about to hand it over.Copy !req
766. I've got some free time.
I want to spend it with you.Copy !req
767. Because I love you. All right?Copy !req
768. Yeah. Um, I can be hungry.Copy !req
769. Good. Thank you.Copy !req
770. Come on. Get in the car.Copy !req
771. Look, uh, put your bag in the back
and put your seatbelt on, please.Copy !req
772. So, come on. How was school?
What lessons did you have?Copy !req
773. Um, maths, chemistry,
and French.Copy !req
774. Français?Copy !req
775. You speak French, yeah?Copy !req
776. - Yeah.
- Well, go on, then.Copy !req
777. Um, jem'appelle.
¿Cómo está? Ça va bien.Copy !req
778. Uh...Copy !req
779. S'il vous plaît?Copy !req
780. All right, stop. That's
enough. That is enough.Copy !req
781. You're destroying the language.Copy !req
782. So, where do you
wanna go for chips?Copy !req
783. Uh, the Chinese place
on Chapel Hill.Copy !req
784. Why would we go to a
Chinese for chips, Adam?Copy !req
785. Listen, it's the best.Copy !req
786. The salt and pepper chips.
The barbecue sauce.Copy !req
787. - Maybe even a bit of mayo on top. Bang!
- All right. It better be. It better be.Copy !req
788. It better be good.Copy !req
789. If blood will flowCopy !req
790. When flesh and steel are oneCopy !req
791. Drying in the color of the evening sunCopy !req
792. Tomorrow's rainCopy !req
793. Will wash the stains awayCopy !req
794. But something
In our minds will always stayCopy !req
795. Perhaps this final act was meantCopy !req
796. To clinch a lifetime's argumentCopy !req
797. That nothing comes from violenceCopy !req
798. And nothing ever couldCopy !req
799. For all those born
Beneath an angry starCopy !req
800. Lest we forget how fragile we areCopy !req
801. On and onCopy !req
802. The rain will fallCopy !req
803. Like tears from a starCopy !req
804. On and onCopy !req
805. The rain will sayCopy !req
806. How fragile we areCopy !req
807. How fragile we areCopy !req
808. On and onCopy !req
809. The rain will fallCopy !req
810. Like tears from a starCopy !req
811. On and onCopy !req
812. The rain will sayCopy !req
813. How fragile we areCopy !req