1. Adam…Copy !req
2. Um, I'm outside your school.Copy !req
3. Probably gonna have
to come into your class, all right?Copy !req
4. Promise I'll leave you alone.Copy !req
5. We could've sent someone more junior here.
You know that, don't ya?Copy !req
6. - Hello.
- Mrs. Fenumore?Copy !req
7. - Yes.
- I'm D.I. Bascombe.Copy !req
8. - Appreciate you doing this.
- Hi. D.S. Frank. Nice to meet you.Copy !req
9. We've only just let them all back in,
so, um, everyone might be a bit raw.Copy !req
10. Yeah, we know.Copy !req
11. We wouldn't be here
if it wasn't important. Okay?Copy !req
12. - Well, thanks for coming.
- Lead on.Copy !req
13. Um, I'll get you signed in.Copy !req
14. - Then I'll take you around.
- Thank you.Copy !req
15. - Hello.
- After you.Copy !req
16. Tommy. Tommy!Copy !req
17. Got a minute?Copy !req
18. - See you later.
- See you.Copy !req
19. The police are here.Copy !req
20. Of course they are.Copy !req
21. - They're everywhere.
- I don't like it.Copy !req
22. Yeah, same.Copy !req
23. You heard from him?Copy !req
24. Everyone's talking about him.
I texted him.Copy !req
25. Yeah.Copy !req
26. I didn't hear nothing. Did you?Copy !req
27. Well, you won't. It's not like
he's gonna have his phone on him.Copy !req
28. Do you think it's true?Copy !req
29. - Yeah.
- You think Jamie did it?Copy !req
30. - Yeah.
- They come to your house?Copy !req
31. - Yeah.
- They ask about the knife?Copy !req
32. - Yeah.
- What did you say?Copy !req
33. I… Dad said not to talk to you about it.Copy !req
34. - Was he mad?
- Well, yeah. Of course. Weren't yours?Copy !req
35. No, they just…
They just didn't say nothing.Copy !req
36. - I don't want to be in trouble.
- You're not in trouble.Copy !req
37. - I don't want Jamie to be in trouble.
- Yeah.Copy !req
38. Well, he is.Copy !req
39. Dickhead.Copy !req
40. Adam, um, I'm outside your school.Copy !req
41. Probably gonna have to come
into your class, all right?Copy !req
42. Promise I'll leave you alone.Copy !req
43. Adam.Copy !req
44. - Give me £1.20 now.
- Fredo.Copy !req
45. - Nah. Give me £1.20.
- I don't have money.Copy !req
46. - Give me £1.20 now.
- Fredo! Fredo, leave him alone.Copy !req
47. - I need £1.20, though, sir.
- No, you don't. You're on free dinners.Copy !req
48. Fourteen parents I've had. Fourteen.Copy !req
49. "Is your school safe?"Copy !req
50. Oh God. What do you say?Copy !req
51. I say the matter
didn't even happen on school property.Copy !req
52. Then they talk about security guards
and metal detectors.Copy !req
53. Mia Taylor told me
we need to open a grief support room.Copy !req
54. We're security guards
and social workers now, are we? Great.Copy !req
55. Well, I just worry about the impact
it's gonna have on the kids. It's a lot.Copy !req
56. - Just keep… keep an eye on it. Yeah?
- Okay.Copy !req
57. - Thanks.
- Uh, shirt, please.Copy !req
58. - And you, Sean. Come on.
- Sorry, miss.Copy !req
59. What the fuck's she on about?
Fucking hell.Copy !req
60. Come, let's go see
what the boys are saying. You know what?Copy !req
61. - I say we go fuck Jamie up.
- Nah, mate. No point.Copy !req
62. - Well, we break in, man.
- Break in? How are you gonna do that?Copy !req
63. - Shut up, man.
- Are you guys from Heywood Street?Copy !req
64. - Yeah.
- [indistinct, excited chatter]Copy !req
65. Get inside!Copy !req
66. Hey, Jade.Copy !req
67. Do you wanna pop inside the office for us?Copy !req
68. Okay?Copy !req
69. Thank you. Thanks.Copy !req
70. Take a seat.Copy !req
71. Thanks, love. Take a seat.Copy !req
72. - Go on. You go on that one.
- All right.Copy !req
73. - Here.
- Thank you.Copy !req
74. You're welcome. Here you go.Copy !req
75. Thanks.Copy !req
76. - Hi, Jade.
- Hiya.Copy !req
77. You all right?Copy !req
78. Look, I'm… I'm D.I. Bascombe.
This is D.S. Frank.Copy !req
79. And this is Mrs. Fenumore.
She's from the school.Copy !req
80. She's gonna keep an eye on things
from the school's perspective,Copy !req
81. give you any support
you may want or need, okay?Copy !req
82. I teach at the lower school, Jade. Okay?Copy !req
83. Uh, Jade, we are, um…Copy !req
84. We're really grateful
that you agreed to talk to us.Copy !req
85. I agreed, did I?Copy !req
86. And I thought I just got pulled off lunch.Copy !req
87. Okay, well, we did try to get you at home,Copy !req
88. but your mum wasn't sure
what time you'd be back, so…Copy !req
89. - Look, if you don't mind, we wanted to—
- I don't mind.Copy !req
90. I'm the lead investigator on Katie's case.Copy !req
91. I wanted to give you my card.Copy !req
92. Has the station number on the frontCopy !req
93. and also a crime reference number
on the back.Copy !req
94. This is to help you keep upCopy !req
95. with the progress
of Katie's case, all right?Copy !req
96. - You can take that.
- Wow.Copy !req
97. It's a bit flash, don't you think?Copy !req
98. Okay.Copy !req
99. Look, uh, we can tell you that we have
arrested, uh, one suspect, all right—Copy !req
100. Yeah, Jamie.Copy !req
101. But we need some more information.Copy !req
102. Both on the murder weapon,
which we don't yet have,Copy !req
103. and why the suspect did it.Copy !req
104. Jade, you were good friends with Katie.
That's right, isn't it?Copy !req
105. Her best friend.Copy !req
106. Ask anyone.Copy !req
107. Can you tell us about her?Copy !req
108. Ain't you got a kid in the school?Copy !req
109. Yeah. Yeah.Copy !req
110. Adam, right?Copy !req
111. - Yeah.
- He's off, if you didn't know.Copy !req
112. He didn't get your cheekbones.Copy !req
113. - I don't see what that has to do—
- Can you tell me about him?Copy !req
114. Listen.Copy !req
115. All you need to know
is she's dead.Copy !req
116. She shouldn't be. 'Cause she got stabbed.Copy !req
117. She was the best person I knew. That's it.Copy !req
118. Uh, Jade, was Katie happy?Copy !req
119. Well, she didn't stab herself.Copy !req
120. What was her relationship
with boys like?Copy !req
121. You mean with Jamie?
She wouldn't go anywhere near him.Copy !req
122. - Really?
- Yeah.Copy !req
123. Interesting.
Are you saying that she didn't like him?Copy !req
124. Because we've got Instagram posts from her
that suggest that they were friends.Copy !req
125. - So, you're trying to blame this on her?
- No.Copy !req
126. Well, you've got video. Everyone knows.Copy !req
127. You should be sorting out
the guy that killed her.Copy !req
128. - We're not asking you to talk—
- You are!Copy !req
129. - You are! I can hear it in all of ya.
- No, Jade. Jade.Copy !req
130. - Can I go?
- A bit of politeness.Copy !req
131. Well, I ain't feeling polite today.
Can I go now, Miss Lower School?Copy !req
132. Mrs. Fenumore, it's fine. It's okay.
You can go, Jade. Thank you.Copy !req
133. Fucking useless.Copy !req
134. You guys are meant
to be best of the police?Copy !req
135. Jade.Copy !req
136. I'm so sorry. She's very upset.Copy !req
137. - Shall we crack on?
- Shall we?Copy !req
138. - Yeah?
- Yeah, let's go.Copy !req
139. - Okay.
- Sorry about that.Copy !req
140. It's okay.Copy !req
141. Um, all right. We'll start you in 8G.Copy !req
142. - That's Jamie's class.
- Yeah, we know.Copy !req
143. And you've spoken to some of the boys.
Uh, Ryan and Tommy?Copy !req
144. Does everyone know everything
about this case? Huh?Copy !req
145. Well, I think people are gonna know
more than you think all day, so…Copy !req
146. Oh, I get it, but they shouldn't.
It doesn't matter. Let's go.Copy !req
147. Guys! Stop it. Sit…Copy !req
148. Hey, everybody, sit down!Copy !req
149. James! Put the phones away, please!Copy !req
150. - Where's. Mr. Malik?
- He's late. Don't grass on him.Copy !req
151. - Right. Detective Bascombe.
- Hi.Copy !req
152. He's got something
he wants to talk to you all about.Copy !req
153. All right, guys.
Look, as many of you may know, right—Copy !req
154. Oh, I'm so sorry.
Uh, Detective Sergeant Frank?Copy !req
155. - Frank. It's fine.
- I'm sorry. Apologies.Copy !req
156. It's okay. As many of you may know,
there was a tragic incidentCopy !req
157. that took place
the night before last, okay?Copy !req
158. It involved a fatality
among one of your schoolmates.Copy !req
159. - Did Jamie do it?
- Listen to the man.Copy !req
160. Oh, shit, he did!Copy !req
161. - Stop swearing, please!
- Look, calm down. We have made one arrest.Copy !req
162. But we are here todayCopy !req
163. because we still haven't found
the murder weapon.Copy !req
164. All right? I know that sounds
very serious and scary,Copy !req
165. but you guys may have
some information that we need.Copy !req
166. So we're just asking, please come to us
and talk to us if you need to, all right?Copy !req
167. - Is it true you've got a video?
- Please.Copy !req
168. Any other situations,
any other issues connected to this case,Copy !req
169. you can also come and talk to—Copy !req
170. - Mr. Malik, we protected you.Copy !req
171. Sorry I'm late.
You must be the police, yeah?Copy !req
172. "You must be the police!"
I love you, Mr. Malik!Copy !req
173. Mr. Malik.Copy !req
174. I'm gonna give Mr. Malik my card.
It has the police station number on it.Copy !req
175. If you wanna talk, you've got information,
go to Mr. Malik. He'll come to us. Right?Copy !req
176. - Thank you. Take care.
- Thank you.Copy !req
177. Thank you very much. Wait.Copy !req
178. Yeah, we're getting back
to the film now, uh, so…Copy !req
179. Uh, Marie, you wanna get your pen out?Copy !req
180. - I ain't got a pen, sir.Copy !req
181. Why do schools have that same smell?Copy !req
182. It's like a mixture of vomit,
cabbage, and masturbation.Copy !req
183. It's horrible.Copy !req
184. Yeah, sure.Copy !req
185. Do you really think
we're gonna find a knife here?Copy !req
186. Uh, we may have enough. We may.Copy !req
187. But if we don't find that knife,
he's got a bargaining chip, hasn't he?Copy !req
188. You know how it goes. And we saw him
walk past the school on CCTV.Copy !req
189. - It was dark, I know—
- Yeah, I get it.Copy !req
190. And I don't have a motive.Copy !req
191. I know you need a motive.Copy !req
192. I just honestly don't understand
why that Jade girl was so angry.Copy !req
193. She's upset, mate.
They're all gonna be very upset.Copy !req
194. I know. I get that. I'm just saying
she made it seem like Katie hated Jamie.Copy !req
195. I'm so sorry about that.
Mr. Malik's newly qualified.Copy !req
196. - It's all good. Thank you.
- Shall we carry on?Copy !req
197. - Let's go.Copy !req
198. I did send a note around
telling everybody that you was coming.Copy !req
199. What do you wanna do?
You wanna go to isolation?Copy !req
200. Because I can send you to isolation.
No problem whatsoever.Copy !req
201. There's no phones allowed in class at all!Copy !req
202. All the teachers are really upset
by this too, as you can see.Copy !req
203. Um, I just… Everyone's just devastated.Copy !req
204. I taught Katie in year five.Copy !req
205. She was so bright.Copy !req
206. Just such a beautiful little girl.Copy !req
207. You know, she talked
a little bit too much, butCopy !req
208. I really thought
she was gonna do something with her life.Copy !req
209. Yeah. It's a horrible shock
for everybody, isn't it?Copy !req
210. Yeah. It's devastating.Copy !req
211. Okay, um, follow me. We'll… carry on.Copy !req
212. Hello.Copy !req
213. - I've got no idea.
- You all right?Copy !req
214. Look, keep an eye out for any of the kids
that react funny when we're in the class.Copy !req
215. - We'll chase 'em up after school, yeah?
- Yeah.Copy !req
216. Good.Copy !req
217. Um, and just to say, I can supply you
with any names you like or addresses too.Copy !req
218. Okay, Mrs. Fenumore.
That would be useful, all right?Copy !req
219. - That's all I want to be. Useful.
- Can we go to 10G?Copy !req
220. Yes, of course, uh, Mr. Curtis.Copy !req
221. It's a great question,
and one—Copy !req
222. - Excuse me!
- I need—Copy !req
223. Right, that is it!
Not another word!Copy !req
224. - Put your pens down!
- Fucking hell.Copy !req
225. Put your hands down
and watch the video.Copy !req
226. Mr. Curtis,
would it be all right if we come in?Copy !req
227. - The police would like to talk.
- Mr. Curtis.Copy !req
228. - You all right?
- You all right?Copy !req
229. - Hi. D.S. Frank.
- You all right?Copy !req
230. - Everything okay?
- Yeah. Want a quick word with the kids.Copy !req
231. Okay, so this is D.I. Bascombe
and D.S. FrankCopy !req
232. from Heywood Street Police Station.Copy !req
233. They'd like to talk
about what happened to Katie.Copy !req
234. Now, they're here
because they care about this school.Copy !req
235. And, as many of you know,
D.I. Bascombe is also Adam's dad.Copy !req
236. - All right, that's enough.Copy !req
237. - I said stop that, Fredo. I said stop!Copy !req
238. See me after class.
I'm sorry. That's unacceptable.Copy !req
239. - It's all right.
- Have some respect.Copy !req
240. Uh, guys, I don't wanna keep you long,
all right?Copy !req
241. You know there was a terrible crime
that was committed in our townCopy !req
242. the night before last.Copy !req
243. And we're just here
trying to understand what—Copy !req
244. - You've gotta be kidding. I'm sorry.Copy !req
245. - Okay, make an orderly line.
- I'm so sorry about this.Copy !req
246. - There's no smoke.Copy !req
247. You're supposed
to be filing out of the school.Copy !req
248. Try and stay in straight lines.Copy !req
249. - Sir, you think it's terrorism?
- No, Billie, it isn't terrorism.Copy !req
250. No running. Stay in lines!Copy !req
251. All right, straight down
to the tennis courts. No messing about.Copy !req
252. No time to grab your things.
Straight down. No messing.Copy !req
253. Thank you.Copy !req
254. It'll be a false alarm.Copy !req
255. Although, someone
did throw a set of fireworksCopy !req
256. into the computer lab last year.Copy !req
257. We had a fire. Um…Copy !req
258. - Crowthers were selling ten for a quid.
- Not very helpful.Copy !req
259. It wasn't very good, no.
Uh, but we managed to contain it, so…Copy !req
260. Did you guys come? The police were here.Copy !req
261. - No, it wasn't us.
- No? They were very helpful.Copy !req
262. All right, we'll make our way
to the tennis courts. Follow me.Copy !req
263. - Hurry up!
- Thank you.Copy !req
264. Hurry. Quickly.Copy !req
265. - Keep moving.
- Keep moving.Copy !req
266. - Thanks so much.
- Keep it moving.Copy !req
267. - So where are we going?
- In the tennis courts.Copy !req
268. - Okay?Copy !req
269. Mr. Malik, can I have a word?Copy !req
270. Yeah.Copy !req
271. - I've been reading your school reports.
- Yeah.Copy !req
272. Jamie was a good student, yeah?Copy !req
273. - Are we allowed to talk out here?
- Yeah. Yeah.Copy !req
274. I wanna know,
was there any signs of unhappiness?Copy !req
275. - I'm… I'm just a tutor. I mean—
- Well, you're a teacher.Copy !req
276. Yeah, but I teach history.
I don't see him, you know? I don't…Copy !req
277. I don't…Copy !req
278. I don't…
I wouldn't know, you know? I…Copy !req
279. Look, these kids are fucking impossible.
I mean, what am I supposed to do?Copy !req
280. Come on, ladies.Copy !req
281. Let's go, please!Copy !req
282. Right, 9G!
In your line, let's go!Copy !req
283. You know exactly. Not messing.
Get in your lines.Copy !req
284. Can you please keep in line?Copy !req
285. - Everything all right?
- Yeah.Copy !req
286. Oi!Copy !req
287. Ryan! What have you done?Copy !req
288. You fucking bastard! You killed my friend!
You killed my friend!Copy !req
289. You fucking… fucking…Copy !req
290. - Fucking hell!
- Jade! Jade!Copy !req
291. Fucking… He killed my friend!Copy !req
292. - No, he didn't!
- The fucking freak! Get off me, miss!Copy !req
293. - Come on, calm down. Let it go.
- Get off me!Copy !req
294. That fucking freak killed my friend!
You fucking murderer!Copy !req
295. - Take her to Mrs. Bailey!
- Okay. Okay, sit up.Copy !req
296. Slowly. That's it.Copy !req
297. I'm gonna take him to the room.
Have you hurt your head?Copy !req
298. Ryan, did you… did you land on your head?Copy !req
299. - Yeah.
- Okay.Copy !req
300. You just got banged by a girl,
you sausage.Copy !req
301. - Shut it, you.Copy !req
302. We're gonna go up to my room,
but we're gonna go really slowly, okay?Copy !req
303. See that?
Ryan just got banged by a girl!Copy !req
304. This is the last time!
In your lines! Now! You! In your line.Copy !req
305. Toby!Copy !req
306. - Did you land funny?
- I'll give detentions!Copy !req
307. I don't care!
In your lines! Now! And phones away.Copy !req
308. - Girls, seriously. Back in your lines.
- Let's take you back to 10G.Copy !req
309. No. We… we wanna talk to Ryan.Copy !req
310. - Let's talk to Ryan.
- He'll be with the nurse now—Copy !req
311. That's fine. We'll go up there.
It's all good.Copy !req
312. - Okay. I hope he's all right.
- Yeah?Copy !req
313. 10G! Come on!Copy !req
314. It's absolute chaos.Copy !req
315. Thank you.Copy !req
316. Straight in.
Back to class. Thank you.Copy !req
317. Put that phone away
and get back to class now!Copy !req
318. - Shut up, Miss.
- Excuse me?Copy !req
319. God's sake.Copy !req
320. I said keep going, please.
Up the stairs. Let's go.Copy !req
321. - Are you sure it's not on fire?
- No, it's not. Get to class. Thank you.Copy !req
322. Okay, guys. Keep it moving.Copy !req
323. Keep it moving. Thank you.Copy !req
324. - That's it. Straight back to classrooms.
- Thank you.Copy !req
325. - Quick as you can.
- Upstairs.Copy !req
326. - Sorry.
- It's all right.Copy !req
327. - Thank you.Copy !req
328. Okay, well done.
Get back to class. Well done.Copy !req
329. All right, here we are.Copy !req
330. Hi, Carla. Can we come in, please?
The police would like to talk to Ryan.Copy !req
331. Right, yeah.
Uh, I'm just gonna check this.Copy !req
332. Okay, look at me. Look at my nose.Copy !req
333. Okay, well, that looks all right.
But you did land on it.Copy !req
334. Hey, miss. Uh, do you mind
if I have a word with Ryan?Copy !req
335. - Is that all right with you, Ryan?
- Yeah.Copy !req
336. - Okay.
- All right?Copy !req
337. - Yeah, of course.
- Thank you.Copy !req
338. - Do you mind if I sit down, mate?
- Yeah.Copy !req
339. - All good.
- Am I all right here, Ryan?Copy !req
340. - Yeah.
- Yeah.Copy !req
341. Thank you.Copy !req
342. That was, uh…Copy !req
343. It was a bit mad, weren't it?Copy !req
344. - Yeah.
- I think you're gonna have a black eye.Copy !req
345. - Yeah, hopefully not.
- Yeah.Copy !req
346. Well, when I was, uh…
when I was around your age, I…Copy !req
347. I ran into a bus shelter
because I wanted a black eye.Copy !req
348. - What?
- I know. It's crazy.Copy !req
349. Don't ask.Copy !req
350. I was probably a bit younger than you.
Maybe about nine.Copy !req
351. Mm.Copy !req
352. Did it work?Copy !req
353. Well, I wanted to look like a cowboy.Copy !req
354. In the end, I ended up losing a tooth
and looking like a, uh…Copy !req
355. Yeah, I can't say. But it hurt.Copy !req
356. Mm.Copy !req
357. It's crazy, you know, what your brain
tells you to do when you're a kid, right?Copy !req
358. - Yeah, you were popular in school, though.
- What makes you say that?Copy !req
359. I just know. You were.Copy !req
360. Well, I was,
once I got rid of the big Afro that I had.Copy !req
361. My mum wouldn't let me
cut my hair for ages, so…Copy !req
362. Once I got it cut,
I got a fade, things were different.Copy !req
363. Yeah.Copy !req
364. Is popularity
important to you, Ryan?Copy !req
365. - Of course.
- Yeah?Copy !req
366. - Yeah.
- When we spoke to you last—Copy !req
367. - Tommy said you spoke to him and all.
- Yeah.Copy !req
368. His, uh…
his dad won't let him say nothing.Copy !req
369. That's true.
It's not entirely right, but…Copy !req
370. I mean, would you like to haveCopy !req
371. your guardian here
or solicitor here, Ryan?Copy !req
372. - No, thank you.
- Okay.Copy !req
373. Were you, like, really popular?Copy !req
374. - Yeah.
- With girls and stuff?Copy !req
375. Um, doesn't look like
you knocked out any teeth.Copy !req
376. - You don't believe me, no?
- Mm.Copy !req
377. I'll show you.
Look. See that one there?Copy !req
378. - Oh, yeah.
- Yeah.Copy !req
379. - Is that a cap or a filling?
- Filling.Copy !req
380. Mm. I got all me teeth.Copy !req
381. - Brush 'em dead careful.
- Okay.Copy !req
382. I don't know why they matter so much,
but… …they do.Copy !req
383. Yeah.Copy !req
384. Look, mate, we, uh…Copy !req
385. We're getting clearer
on the geography of that night, you know?Copy !req
386. But there's still three things
that we feel you can help us with.Copy !req
387. Okay, Carla, um, is it all right
if I go now, because I'm—Copy !req
388. It's better if you stay
a little bit longer. Okay?Copy !req
389. Okay.Copy !req
390. Sorry, what was you saying?Copy !req
391. Look, uh, what…Copy !req
392. We wanna know what Jamie intended.Copy !req
393. And what motiv…Copy !req
394. Do you know what I mean
by "motivated"? Yeah?Copy !req
395. Yeah. And "intended."Copy !req
396. Good. All right.
So what motivated him to do…Copy !req
397. Why he did what he did, right?
We think you can help with that. And, um…Copy !req
398. You know, like, for instance,
on the night, was he happy or sad?Copy !req
399. I don't know. Normal.Copy !req
400. Okay.
Well, what did you talk about?Copy !req
401. Nothing, really. Just hung out.Copy !req
402. This is gonna be… seem
like a really silly question to you.Copy !req
403. But, look…Copy !req
404. Did Jamie ever talk to you
about his feelings?Copy !req
405. Like, how he was feeling?Copy !req
406. Yeah, nah.Copy !req
407. - No?
- No.Copy !req
408. Can we talk about Katie?Copy !req
409. I don't really know
anything about her, so…Copy !req
410. Can we talk
about what Jamie said about Katie?Copy !req
411. I didn't… I didn't know
anything about what he was gonna do.Copy !req
412. All right.Copy !req
413. Would you describe Katie and Jamie
as friends? Would you?Copy !req
414. I don't think so. Not really. Um…Copy !req
415. Like I say,
I didn't really get to know her.Copy !req
416. Anyway, can I go now? Because I'm fine.Copy !req
417. - Ryan.
- Wait.Copy !req
418. We're not finished. I've got one question,
and this is a really important one, right?Copy !req
419. We still haven't found
the knife that Jamie used—Copy !req
420. Yeah, cool, but I need to go now.
They said they'd keep me back.Copy !req
421. - They won't, Ryan. Just, please—
- Please. I need to get back.Copy !req
422. You've hit your head,
so can you come back in? Ryan!Copy !req
423. - I don't want water.
- Mrs. Bailey?Copy !req
424. - Yes.
- Her mum's been called.Copy !req
425. Thank you.Copy !req
426. - Are you serious?
- Your mum needs to be told.Copy !req
427. She'll be mad at me
'cause she'll have to get out of work.Copy !req
428. What…Copy !req
429. How are you two?
Are you… Are you getting on better now?Copy !req
430. It's okay, yeah.Copy !req
431. I did say it might not be best
to come in today, didn't I, love?Copy !req
432. Where do you want me going?Copy !req
433. Mum doesn't like me
in her house without her there.Copy !req
434. I'm not walking around places…Copy !req
435. I'm not walking around places…
Katie's been, so…Copy !req
436. You know, I… I'd go to her house.Copy !req
437. - That's where I'd go if I wasn't here.
- Go to her house, then.Copy !req
438. No.Copy !req
439. Listen, go to her house.
I'm sure her parents would love to see ya.Copy !req
440. No, trust me. Trust me, they wouldn't.Copy !req
441. - Miss?
- Yes?Copy !req
442. Am I in trouble?Copy !req
443. Oh God.Copy !req
444. Sit down.Copy !req
445. Come on. Sit down, please.Copy !req
446. You know you're in trouble.Copy !req
447. Will the police come
by the house because I don't…Copy !req
448. I don't know.
That depends what Ryan decides.Copy !req
449. - But he's only a little boy.
- So, then why did you do it?Copy !req
450. - I don't know.Copy !req
451. I know you're hurt and you're upset,Copy !req
452. but you don't know Ryan's got anything
to do with what happened to Katie.Copy !req
453. Talk to me. Come on.Copy !req
454. She was my best friend, miss.Copy !req
455. She was the only one who actually…Copy !req
456. She was the only one
who actually thought I was okay.Copy !req
457. I don't know what to do anymore.Copy !req
458. I don't know what to do anymore 'cause…
it's not like I have anyone else now.Copy !req
459. - Yes. Yes, you do.
- No, I don't.Copy !req
460. Yes, you do, love.
You've got lots of people.Copy !req
461. - No, I don't. You're only saying that.
- I'm not. But this…Copy !req
462. Jade, this is a huge loss, love.Copy !req
463. So we'll arrange for somebody
for you to have a chat to.Copy !req
464. - Not another shrink.
- It's not a shrink.Copy !req
465. - No, fuck that.
- Somebody for you to talk to. Please.Copy !req
466. - Are you serious?
- No, you can't go back to class.Copy !req
467. You know you can't.Copy !req
468. - Every fucking time.
- Come on, Jade, darling. Stay with me.Copy !req
469. - You've got to stay with me.
- Leave me alone, miss.Copy !req
470. - Please!
- Repeat with me.Copy !req
471. Jade, come on, love. Please.Copy !req
472. Saudi Arabia and Paraguay.Copy !req
473. Only Paraguay is different
on the reverse side.Copy !req
474. Saudi Arabia is exactly the same
on both sides.Copy !req
475. And which country does not have a…Copy !req
476. It may not seem big,Copy !req
477. but any little piece of information
you've got… we would love.Copy !req
478. Okay. All right.Copy !req
479. Thank you for your time.Copy !req
480. - You all right?
- Yeah.Copy !req
481. Come here.Copy !req
482. - You okay?
- Yeah.Copy !req
483. Why are you not in class? Hmm?Copy !req
484. Can I… talk to you?Copy !req
485. In… private. Please.Copy !req
486. Okay.Copy !req
487. - Uh, Mrs. Fenumore.
- Yes.Copy !req
488. Do you have a, uh…
a free class, private room?Copy !req
489. Just a place
I can have a word with Adam privately?Copy !req
490. - Um… Private… Yes.
- Yeah?Copy !req
491. Uh, follow me down here.Copy !req
492. - Okay, thank you. Come on.
- A room down the stairs.Copy !req
493. There.Copy !req
494. Is this all right?Copy !req
495. In there. Go on.Copy !req
496. Do you, um,
want me to come in with you, or…Copy !req
497. - No, it's all right.
- Is he all right?Copy !req
498. - I haven't got a clue.
- I'll wait outside for ya.Copy !req
499. - Take your time.
- Yeah.Copy !req
500. - Thank you, Mrs. Fenumore.
- Everything all right? Okay.Copy !req
501. What's up? You all right?Copy !req
502. Is this about that guy in your class?
That Fredo guy? Huh?Copy !req
503. No. Um…Copy !req
504. - What's up?
- Sit down.Copy !req
505. Adam, you're freaking me out.
What's going on? Hmm?Copy !req
506. Just, um…Copy !req
507. Is this…Copy !req
508. You said you wanted to talk to people…
who might be able to help you understand.Copy !req
509. And you can help me understand?
Yeah? That's what you're saying?Copy !req
510. - Adam, is this—
- You wanna go.Copy !req
511. - I don't wanna go.
- You wanna go to the gym or work.Copy !req
512. - The door's right there. Just leave, Dad.
- I'm here. What…?Copy !req
513. Have you got information about that?
Do you know where that knife is?Copy !req
514. Has someone said something?Copy !req
515. Because, listen, I've got sniffer dogs,Copy !req
516. people down drains,
and all sorts of stuff.Copy !req
517. Dad.Copy !req
518. It's not going well
'cause you're not getting it.Copy !req
519. What am I not getting?Copy !req
520. You're not reading what they're doing.
What's happening.Copy !req
521. What are you talking about?Copy !req
522. Insta. You've been looking
at Insta, right?Copy !req
523. Yeah.Copy !req
524. Uh, okay. So you've, um…Copy !req
525. You've seen… what she wrote?Copy !req
526. I have.Copy !req
527. - Okay.
- Looks like she's being nice, right?Copy !req
528. Isn't she? Hmm?Copy !req
529. The dynamite.
What do you think that means?Copy !req
530. Uh, I don't know.Copy !req
531. An exploding red pill. The blue pills mean
you see the world as it wants you to—Copy !req
532. That's when the Matrix…
You've been watching The Matrix?Copy !req
533. What?Copy !req
534. - Don't worry. Yeah. Don't worry, carry on.
- The Matrix.Copy !req
535. Carry on.Copy !req
536. Um…Copy !req
537. The red pill's like, "I see the truth."Copy !req
538. It's a call to action by the manosphere.Copy !req
539. "Manosphere"?Copy !req
540. Which is where the 100 comes in.
The 80 to 20 rule.Copy !req
541. Adam, Adam. Listen.Copy !req
542. My brain can't take all this.Copy !req
543. I don't know what you're talking about.
Just break it down.Copy !req
544. 80% of women are attracted to 20% of men.Copy !req
545. Women. You must trick themCopy !req
546. 'cause you'll never get them
in a normal way.Copy !req
547. 80% of women are cut off or…Copy !req
548. Or she's saying he's an incel, Dad.Copy !req
549. He's 13. How can you be
involuntarily celibate at 13?Copy !req
550. - Dad, I know—
- Who isn't celibate at 13? Huh?Copy !req
551. She's saying he always will be.
"You're an incel."Copy !req
552. You're gonna be,
I don't know, a virgin forever, basically.Copy !req
553. And all those people have hearted,
which means they're agreeing with her.Copy !req
554. Okay. So this is…Copy !req
555. This is bullying?Copy !req
556. I mean, it's… it's a bit of a stretch,
Ad, but…Copy !req
557. - You don't believe me, Dad.
- I'm not saying I don't believe you.Copy !req
558. Where are you going?
Hey, stop. What are you doing?Copy !req
559. This is useful.Copy !req
560. I… I… I didn't know.Copy !req
561. It's just hard to believe,
like, all that from two symbols.Copy !req
562. You text hearts, right? To Mum?Copy !req
563. - When I don't know what to reply, yeah.
- What color?Copy !req
564. - Red.
- Means love.Copy !req
565. Purple, horny. Yellow, I'm interested.
Are you interested?Copy !req
566. Pink, I'm interested, but not in sex.Copy !req
567. Orange, you're gonna be fine.
It all has a meaning, Dad.Copy !req
568. Everything has a meaning.Copy !req
569. Well, it's…Copy !req
570. It's a good thing
I only text Mum red, then, innit?Copy !req
571. Okay.Copy !req
572. I could, um, show you 15 others.
Messages sent to Jamie.Copy !req
573. All different emojis.
They're saying the same thing.Copy !req
574. Look…Copy !req
575. are you saying…Copy !req
576. that Katie is leading this incel stuff?Copy !req
577. Is that what it is?
Yeah, like she's bullying Jamie? Yeah?Copy !req
578. Dad. I… I don't know, Dad.
I… I don't know them.Copy !req
579. They're two years below me.Copy !req
580. This is… This is just what I'm seeing
on his Insta, you know?Copy !req
581. Okay. Okay.Copy !req
582. Look, I… I can't tell you what he did.
You know that, right?Copy !req
583. We all know what he did, Dad.Copy !req
584. I just thought you needed to know.Copy !req
585. It was just embarrassing
watching you blunder about.Copy !req
586. I'm sorry.Copy !req
587. Don't be.Copy !req
588. I have been blundering,
to be fair.Copy !req
589. Look…Copy !req
590. Does any of this Instagram stuff
affect you? Hmm?Copy !req
591. - It's not about me.
- I know.Copy !req
592. But does it, son?Copy !req
593. You don't call me "son."Copy !req
594. You call other people "son."
You never call me "son."Copy !req
595. Okay. I'm sorry.Copy !req
596. No.Copy !req
597. I'm on Insta, but I don't post.Copy !req
598. - And you're okay, yeah?
- Yeah, I'm fine.Copy !req
599. - Okay. Listen.
- Yeah.Copy !req
600. Um…Copy !req
601. - Thank you. Yeah?
- Yeah.Copy !req
602. - I appreciate it.
- Yeah. Um…Copy !req
603. All right.Copy !req
604. I should, um… get back
to the last bit of class.Copy !req
605. Okay. You go.Copy !req
606. Hey, thank y—Copy !req
607. They pick everything up.Copy !req
608. You all right?Copy !req
609. Yeah. Um…Copy !req
610. We were wrong
about all that Instagram stuff.Copy !req
611. - What do you mean?
- Katie was bullying Jamie.Copy !req
612. - Oh no.
- That's what it was.Copy !req
613. Incel stuff. You know what that is.Copy !req
614. Yeah, I do.Copy !req
615. No, I don't know what that is. What is it?Copy !req
616. It's the, um, involuntary celibate stuff.
It's the Andrew Tate shite.Copy !req
617. - Hmm.
- Oh.Copy !req
618. - Fucking hell.
- I've heard the boys talking about him.Copy !req
619. Yeah. Uh, look, Mrs. Fenumore,
thank you so much.Copy !req
620. - You can go now. We've…
- Thank you.Copy !req
621. - Thank you very much. Nice to meet you.
- Sure? I can take you…Copy !req
622. Are you sure you don't want to go
or need to go somewhere?Copy !req
623. No, we're all good. Thank you very much.Copy !req
624. Well, it's good to be useful, and I'll be
in the office if you need anything.Copy !req
625. But I just want to say thank you so much.Copy !req
626. We really appreciate
everything you've… you've done.Copy !req
627. - Thank you.
- No worries. Thank you.Copy !req
628. - Thank you.
- Bye.Copy !req
629. - Bye-bye.
- Bye.Copy !req
630. Fucking hell.Copy !req
631. Yeah, fucking hell.Copy !req
632. Hmm.Copy !req
633. Do you know what? I honestly…
I just can't stand this fucking place.Copy !req
634. - You wanted to come, mate.
- Yeah, I know, but…Copy !req
635. Does it look like anyone's
learning anything in there to you? Hmm?Copy !req
636. It just looks like a fucking holding pen.Copy !req
637. Videos in every class.Copy !req
638. Mr. Malik just walking in and out
when he wants.Copy !req
639. - And you said it fucking smells.
- It does fucking stink.Copy !req
640. All schools stink.Copy !req
641. Just come here. Just have a minute here.Copy !req
642. Just get our head round this.Copy !req
643. There'll be some good teachers in here
and some good students.Copy !req
644. - My school was a bit like this.
- Well, how did you survive, then?Copy !req
645. 'Cause I had a good teacher.
I had Mrs. Benton, who was fucking class.Copy !req
646. - She taught, um, art and photography.Copy !req
647. I liked drawing pictures and stuff.Copy !req
648. Mm. Nice.Copy !req
649. All kids really need is one thing that
makes them feel okay about themselves.Copy !req
650. You want kids?Copy !req
651. - You have never asked me that before.
- I know. I'm just…Copy !req
652. It's not something you ask your colleague.Copy !req
653. Well, you can ask your mates, can't you?
And no. No, not really.Copy !req
654. - I never wanted 'em.
- No?Copy !req
655. Mm.Copy !req
656. But I do love him very much.Copy !req
657. Is he all right?Copy !req
658. I mean, that is the longest
he's spoken to me in a while, so…Copy !req
659. Surely that's a good thing, no?Copy !req
660. Yeah, but… Look, I… I just…Copy !req
661. Sometimes I don't think I'm the right fit
for him as a dad.Copy !req
662. You know what I mean?Copy !req
663. Well, I know you. And I know you can be.
Do you know what I mean?Copy !req
664. Yeah.Copy !req
665. All right. Look…Copy !req
666. - We haven't got the knife.
- No.Copy !req
667. But, um…Copy !req
668. I think back to the station. Do you?
Yeah. We've got what we need anyway now.Copy !req
669. - Mish.
- What?Copy !req
670. You've hated being here, yeah?
I get it. What's up?Copy !req
671. It's not even that, you know?Copy !req
672. - Do you know what I don't like about this?
- Go on.Copy !req
673. Right, the perpetrator
always gets the front line.Copy !req
674. "A man raped a woman."Copy !req
675. [grunts, sighs] We've followed
Jamie's brain around this entire case.Copy !req
676. - Hmm. Yeah.
- Right? Katie isn't important. Jamie is.Copy !req
677. Everyone will remember Jamie.
No one will remember her.Copy !req
678. That's what annoys me.
That's what gets to me.Copy !req
679. I think you're wrong.
I think we're here for Katie.Copy !req
680. We're here for her parents.
We're here to get answers.Copy !req
681. It's our job to understand why.Copy !req
682. You can't understand why.
Do you actually think you can?Copy !req
683. We've got the video. We know what he did.Copy !req
684. You're not gonna know why.
Look at the things we've seen.Copy !req
685. You are not gonna know why.
You just won't.Copy !req
686. Okay, Mish, look. Go back to the station.Copy !req
687. - I'm gonna talk to Ryan one last time.
- But you've spoken to Ryan.Copy !req
688. I know, but he's…
he's not saying something.Copy !req
689. I know there's more.Copy !req
690. - You coming or not?
- Fuck's sake.Copy !req
691. - Mr. Malik.
- Oh, for fuck's sake.Copy !req
692. How can I help?Copy !req
693. - I need to have a word with Ryan.
- Sir, at least stop the tape.Copy !req
694. It's a good bit.Copy !req
695. - One second. Ryan. Come on.
- Ryan.Copy !req
696. - Holy shit! Holy shit!
- Whoa!Copy !req
697. - [suspenseful, rhythmic music playing]Copy !req
698. Come here! Ryan!Copy !req
699. Stop running. Stop, mate.Copy !req
700. Ryan!Copy !req
701. Hey, hey, hey!Copy !req
702. Ryan!Copy !req
703. Stop!Copy !req
704. Hey! Come here!Copy !req
705. Come here!Copy !req
706. Ryan!Copy !req
707. Don't. Don't you dare.Copy !req
708. Fuck.Copy !req
709. Hey!Copy !req
710. Come here!Copy !req
711. Fuck.Copy !req
712. - Move!
- Hey!Copy !req
713. Ryan. Ryan.Copy !req
714. - Mind the road! Mind the road!Copy !req
715. - Fuck!Copy !req
716. Hey. Where are you going?
Stop running!Copy !req
717. Get the fuck down.
What the fuck are you doing?Copy !req
718. Come here. Come here.Copy !req
719. - What does "incel" mean to you?
- What?Copy !req
720. Incel. Katie called Jamie an incel.
What does it mean?Copy !req
721. - Who did you get that off?
- Was she bullying him?Copy !req
722. - Why are you always talking to me?
- What do you mean?Copy !req
723. - Tommy! Talk to him.
- Fuck Tommy!Copy !req
724. What's he got to do with anything?
You know Jamie!Copy !req
725. - He knows Jamie.
- No, he doesn't! Not like you.Copy !req
726. Listen. I'm gonna ask you one question.
I want a fucking serious answer.Copy !req
727. - Do you understand?
- All right. Yes!Copy !req
728. - Did you help him get that knife?
- No, man.Copy !req
729. Ryan, do not play with me.
Did you help him?Copy !req
730. - No.
- Hey!Copy !req
731. There's a dead fucking girl! Right?Copy !req
732. - All right. Right.
- Answer the question. Talk.Copy !req
733. Right.Copy !req
734. It was… It was my knife.Copy !req
735. - I just want things the way they were.
- Fucking hell.Copy !req
736. - I thought he'd just scare her.
- Where is it?Copy !req
737. I don't know.Copy !req
738. - Where the fuck is it?
- I don't know!Copy !req
739. - All right. You're coming with me.
- What?Copy !req
740. - That's it. You're under arrest. Stop!
- Get off!Copy !req
741. Ryan Kowalska, I am arresting you
on suspicion of conspiracy to murder.Copy !req
742. You do not have to say anything,
but it may harm your defenseCopy !req
743. if you do not mention when questioned
something you later rely on in court,Copy !req
744. anything you do say
may be given in evidence.Copy !req
745. Get off me!Copy !req
746. Please, I don't wanna go!Copy !req
747. - Get off!
- Fucking hell.Copy !req
748. - I haven't run like that in years.Copy !req
749. Get off!Copy !req
750. Fuck.Copy !req
751. - You good with this? Yeah?
- Yep.Copy !req
752. Just, uh, book him in.
Notify anyone that needs to know.Copy !req
753. Yep. Will do.Copy !req
754. And, yeah. Charge Jamie.Copy !req
755. Without you?Copy !req
756. Yeah. We've got everything
that we need now. All right?Copy !req
757. Yeah.Copy !req
758. Are you all right?Copy !req
759. Yeah, I'm good. Um…Copy !req
760. There's something…
something I want to sort out.Copy !req
761. - Sure you're all right?
- I'm good. See you in a bit.Copy !req
762. Yeah, all right. See you there.Copy !req
763. Fuck.Copy !req
764. Oh God.Copy !req
765. Adam!Copy !req
766. You all right?Copy !req
767. - What's up? Come here.
- I don't want a lift. I'll take the bus.Copy !req
768. No, no, no. I'm not…
I'm not offering you a lift.Copy !req
769. Come. Come… here.Copy !req
770. Look, uh…Copy !req
771. I'm hungry.Copy !req
772. All right? And, uh, I was gonna…Copy !req
773. I was gonna get some chips and a Coke.
I wanted to know if you wanted to come.Copy !req
774. - You've got your case.
- Yes, I know I've got my case.Copy !req
775. All right? It's nearly done now.
I'm about to hand it over.Copy !req
776. I've got some free time.
I want to spend it with you.Copy !req
777. Because I love you. All right?Copy !req
778. Yeah. Um, I can be hungry.Copy !req
779. Good. Thank you.Copy !req
780. Come on. Get in the car.Copy !req
781. Look, uh, put your bag in the back
and put your seatbelt on, please.Copy !req
782. So, come on. How was school?
What lessons did you have?Copy !req
783. Um, maths, chemistry, and French.Copy !req
784. Français?Copy !req
785. You speak French, yeah?Copy !req
786. - Yeah.
- Well, go on, then.Copy !req
787. Um, je m'appelle.
¿Cómo está? Ça va bien.Copy !req
788. - Uh…Copy !req
789. S'il vous plaît?Copy !req
790. All right, stop.
That's enough. That is enough.Copy !req
791. You're destroying the language.Copy !req
792. So, where do you wanna go
for chips?Copy !req
793. Uh, the Chinese place on Chapel Hill.Copy !req
794. Why would we go
to a Chinese for chips, Adam?Copy !req
795. Listen, it's the best.Copy !req
796. The salt and pepper chips.
The barbecue sauce.Copy !req
797. - Maybe even a bit of mayo on top. Bang!
- All right. It better be. It better be.Copy !req
798. It better be good.Copy !req